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Re: Mille Miglia

To: Simon Favre <favres@engmail.ulinear.com>
Subject: Re: Mille Miglia
From: JISBELLJR@mail.utexas.edu (James A. Isbell)
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 19:29:33 -0500
>1) These cars are, by design, not able to be licensed for use on public
>roads.  This means all stages of this event would have to take place on
>closed sections of road.  The Police/Fire/Safety logistics would be
>nightmarish.  Other T/D rallies (California Millia, Copper State 1000,
>One Lap of America) have the advantage of running licensed cars.  Even
>if they do use the road less travelled, they don't HAVE to exclude all
>other traffic from the same road.  Formula cars would.

Wouldnt have it any other way.

>2) These cars are also not designed with lots of ground clearance or
>suspension travel.  Running them on public roads would be downright
>dangerous to the participants.  You could choose roads that were
>smoother and more capable of supporting these cars, but it would not be
>very interesting to conduct this event down the length of I-5.  *Yawn*

Clearance is easy to solve.  My FA with high profile treaded tires could
have ground clearance of 4" without even tampering with the suspension.

>3) Let's calculate.  At an average of, say 50 MPH for 1000 miles more or
>less, you're talking about 20 hours of operation on machines that have
>trouble finishing a 2-3 hour enduro.  Don't most builders recommend at
>least a minor teardown every 4 hours or so?  I think you're really
>pushing the MTBF of the components.

The reccomend teardown is for engines opperated at full throttle in 12 to 16
lap races.  The worst conditions an engine could possible endure.

>4) Formula cars are not the most comfortable steeds.  Even at reduced
>speeds, it would be nuts to run this in anything but full Nomex.  This
>would tend to require driver rest stops and/or driver changes every 2-3
>hours at most.  The CSRG Enduro, which mixes cars of all types, requires
>driver changes every 30 minutes and a mandatory 5 minute "fuel" stop.

I would say 150 miles a day.  Maybe in two 75 mile stages.  As with ballon
races all cars would have a chase car with fuel and a trailer.

>5) How are you supposed to do a T/D rally that depends on accuracy
>without a navigator?  There's no room in a formula car for either the
>navigator OR a rally computer.  There isn't even a speedometer in most
>of these cars.  You'd have to put in an ultra high-tech digital dash
>with RPM, MPH, MPG, and a GPS.  Where's the fun in that? ;=)

Adding a speedo to my car would not be too bad (could be mounted above the
cowling)and a watch in the center of the wheel would complete the
instrumentation.

>Admittedly, you said we could run this in stages, but is that what these
>cars were really designed for?  I drive a Formula car, and I really
>don't think this is such a good idea. 

I didn't say it would be easy.  I am an endurance racer by nature (airplanes
and yachts)  My wife doesnt understand when I say I would rather drive from
Austin to San Diego (1400 miles) than fly in an airliner.  I can make the
first 1000 miles in the first day and I finish it off the second day into
San Diego by 2 PM.  I love it and I am not tired.  Admitedly 1000 miles in
one day in Nomex would be suicide and the suspension would probably kill you
before the heat did.

But, its my nature, however, I take it not yours.

>Unfortunately, the days of the mad dash across unrestricted roads may be
>long gone.  

I agree.  There may be insanity at taking your life into your own hands, but
it is your life and you have that right.

>The last one in Australia produced fatalities, and may not
>happen again.  I believe there was such a run in Nevada recently, but I
>don't know if it is to be a recurring event.

With the new "no speed limit" in Wyoming I think it goes on every day now.

>A speed dash could be done
>with formula cars on a suitably prepared road, but otherwise I just
>don't think this is a good idea.

Again I dont think it would be an easy race, but then nothing worth while is
ever easy.
--
                                                            Jim

  "Better an outlaw than not free."
                         Nance O'Neil   


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