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Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap

To: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
From: Joe Brown <jbbrown1980@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 10:51:30 -0500
Cc: Tigers Den <tigers@autox.team.net>
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For a coolant recovery system I'm currently using my old original washer
bottle mounted in the bracket that originally held the remote oil filter.
I would like to come up with a different solution that I can mount to the
inner fender in front of the expansion tank.  I'm concerned that the
plastic washer bottle in its current location up against the engine might
suffer from the heat.  Moss Motors has an overflow bottle for a Triumph
that wouldn't look out of place in the Tiger,
https://mossmotors.com/overflow-bottle-1.  But the bracket is kind of
pricey.  I might try to make my own bracket.

Have Fun,
Joe Brown

On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 10:39 AM Ron Fraser via Tigers <
tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:

> This has been a wonderful discussion.   Please include any manufacturer
> and part number when you find good workable parts for any area on the
> Tiger.   We also need to know possible bad part numbers too.   We all nee=
d
> that kind of information on hand for future reference.
>
>
>
> I still recommend a coolant recovery system to everyone then you know
> exactly when and how much coolant is moving back and forth through the
> system.
>
> Make it a simple setup that can easily be removed if judging is your
> priority.
>
> Personally, I prefer not to pollute the ground with coolant of any kind
> and I really don=E2=80=99t want coolant possibly spraying onto my tire wh=
ile
> driving or stopping.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Gary
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 19, 2021 9:26 AM
> *To:* michael king <michael.s.king@gmail.com>; Douglas Lyle <
> douglasalyle@yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* Tigers Den <tigers@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
>
>
>
> Or you were just over filling it.
> It is normal for the Tiger to blow out the little hose until it gets down
> to where it needs to be.
> Gary
>
> On 8/18/2021 11:38 PM, michael king via Tigers wrote:
>
> doug sounds like the spring wasnt strong enough or that perhaps very
> slightly to shallow?
>
> On Thursday, 19 August 2021, Douglas Lyle via Tigers <
> tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Joe, I've had two failures with those Scott Drake caps.   They were about
> 10 years apart.    Both failed soon after installation.    The 10 year ga=
p
> was because I had forgotten that the first one failed and then 10 years
> later I bought another and it also failed.    Ended up finding an NOS cap
> and that solved the problem.
>
>
>
> Both Scott Drake caps were allowing coolant to puke out after short
> drives.   Dimensions looked identical.   Your results may vary.  Just kee=
p
> an eye on it.
>
>
>
>
>
> Doug
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 18, 2021, 10:21:47 AM PDT, Joe Brown <
> jbbrown1980@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> I have an update on my quest to find a radiator cap.  I wound up ordering
> a Scott Drake Mustang cap from CJ Pony Parts and it fits really well.  An=
d
> since my temp gauge was always pegged out really high I installed a
> mechanical temp gauge from Summit on my Edelbrock intake.  After idling f=
or
> about 20 minutes the temp never got over 190.  Now I need to take it out
> for a long drive and see how it does.
>
>
>
> Thanks for all of MKdoug soijds info from everybody.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe Brown
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 9:35 AM Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com> wrote:
>
> Jim
>
>                 Thank you for the pictures.
>
>
>
> It appears I have the MOPAR 5220487 Filler cap =E2=80=93 good to know.
>
>
>
> This also indicates that any 522xxxx number in the Parts List is a
> Chrysler part number =E2=80=93 excellent.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* jimdamelio <jimdamelio@verizon.net>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 28, 2021 8:11 PM
> *To:* Joe Brown <jbbrown1980@gmail.com>; Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com=
>
> *Cc:* Tigers Den <Tigers@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
>
>
>
> Attached are pictures of the 9lb cap 5220487, 13lb cap 1224818 and a 13lb
> chrome Motorcraft cap.  The 9lb cap measures 1" from inside base to tip o=
f
> plunger while both 13lb caps measure 1-1/8".
>
>
>
> Jim D
>
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy
>
>
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
>
> From: Joe Brown via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
>
> Date: 7/28/21 6:49 PM (GMT-05:00)
>
> To: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
>
> Cc: Tigers Den <Tigers@autox.team.net>
>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
>
>
>
> Just to add to my confusion I took a look at the Tiger Parts List
> Supplement (pub number 6601131) and I'm guessing this only covers the
> Tigers up to  B382001521 because it only shows the 1224725 header tank an=
d
> Ron has  Parts List 6601334 which show two more tanks.    Parts List
> 6601131  says the 9 lb. cap is for "later" cars and the 13 lb. cap is for
> "earlier" cars.  This seems to contradict what is in TBON.  Is it possibl=
e
> that some of the earliest cars had 13 lb. caps and then they went to 9 lb=
.
> caps until they changes the header tanks?
>
>
>
> The Rootes part number for the 9 lb. cap is 5220487 and when I Google tha=
t
> number I can see that is also a Mopar part number from back in the day.
> All of the usual sources want to cross this over to a 13 lb. cap.  I did
> find a 9 lb. cap made by Motorad but I can't find what the stem length is=
.
> I guess I will have to go down to the different part stores and look at
> what they have.
>
>
>
> Sunbeam Specialties has three different caps for sale but they are for
> Alpines, not Tigers.  I asked Rick if any of them would work for the Tige=
r
> and he said the pressure rating was too low.
>
>
>
> Ron, the G630 cap pulls up as a match for some older Land Rovers but I'm
> only finding used ones.
>
>
>
> If anybody has recently purchased a new cap that is working fine please
> let me know what you got.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe Brown
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 8:40 PM Joe Brown <jbbrown1980@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I pulled out my copy of TBON and he also listed a 9 lb. cap up to
> B382001521 and 13 lb. after that
>
>
>
> I sent an email to Rick at SS to see if his part number RC5 is the cap yo=
u
> described. It doesn't say it's for the Tiger, it just says it's for the
> series V.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 8:27 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com> wrote:
>
> Parts List 6601334 lists 3 header tanks.
>
> 1224725                Header Tank       up to B382001521
>
> 5221224                Header Tank       from B382001522 to B382001894
>
> 1236126                Header Tank       from B382001895
>
>
>
> Graham Vickery sent me a drawing for Header Tank 1224725 and it indicates
> Filler Cap 9 lbs.
>
>
>
> I don=E2=80=99t know if the drawings for the other 2 header tanks are ava=
ilable to
> see which Filler Cap they indicate.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Joe Brown <jbbrown1980@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 27, 2021 7:49 PM
> *To:* Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
> *Cc:* Tigers Den <Tigers@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
>
>
>
> Thanks Ron, the .805" dimension sounds like what I need.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 6:37 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com> wrote:
>
> Joe
>
>                 I believe I bought my radiator cap from Sunbeam
> Specialties.
>
> Cap indicates 9 lbs. and G630.
>
> Rubber seal to rubber seal is .805=E2=80=9D.
>
> I installed a catch bottle for the header tank overflow.   Catches any
> overflow which gets sucked back in when the engine cools.
>
>
>
> The Parts lists indicates 9 lbs. later cars and 13 lbs. early cars.
>
>
>
> Tiger, An Exceptional Motorcar indicates B382001521 as last unit with
> early header tank and 9 lb. cap =E2=80=93 B382001522 1st Tiger with updat=
ed
> header tank and 13 lb. cap.
>
>
>
> Well, no really good help there.
>
>
>
> I=E2=80=99m thinking 9 lbs. for early cars and 13 lbs. for later cars is =
correct
>
>
>
> Ron  Fraser
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Joe Brown
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 27, 2021 6:07 PM
> *To:* Tigers Den <Tigers@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Tigers] Radiator Cap
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I'm hoping one of you guys can tell me what radiator cap I should be
> using.  I've tried a cap that was listed as being for a Tiger on Autozone=
's
> website but I think the pressure spring part under the cap is too short. =
 I
> almost immediately start getting water out of the overflow tube as the
> engine warms up.  I measured the depth of the expansion tank opening from
> the top edge to the flange where the spring part of the cap would sit and
> got .777".  I measured the cap from the big rubber seal just under the ca=
p
> to the small rubber seal at the end of the spring and got something like
> .75".  So it looks like I need a cap with a longer spring stem.
>
>
>
> A brand name and part number would be great  And also, what should the
> pressure rating be?  What I have is 13 lbs.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe Brown
>
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>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">For a coolant recovery system I&#39;m currently using my o=
ld original washer bottle mounted in the bracket that originally held the r=
emote oil filter.=C2=A0 I would like to come up with a different solution t=
hat I can mount to the inner fender in front of the expansion tank.=C2=A0 I=
&#39;m concerned that the plastic washer bottle in its current location up =
against the engine might suffer from the heat.=C2=A0 Moss Motors has an ove=
rflow bottle for a Triumph that wouldn&#39;t look out of place in the Tiger=
, <a href=3D"https://mossmotors.com/overflow-bottle-1";>https://mossmotors.c=
om/overflow-bottle-1</a>.=C2=A0 But the bracket is kind of pricey.=C2=A0 I =
might try to make my own bracket.<div><br></div><div>Have Fun,</div><div>Jo=
e Brown</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D=
"gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 10:39 AM Ron Fraser via Tigers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-=
US"><div class=3D"gmail-m_-4611161975533452807WordSection1"><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal">This has been a wonderful discussion.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Please include an=
y manufacturer and part number when you find good workable parts for any ar=
ea on the Tiger.=C2=A0=C2=A0 We also need to know possible bad part numbers=
 too.=C2=A0=C2=A0 We all need that kind of information on hand for future r=
eference.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal">I still recommend a coolant recovery system to everyo=
ne then you know exactly when and how much coolant is moving back and forth=
 through the system.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Make it a simp=
le setup that can easily be removed if judging is your priority.<u></u><u><=
/u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Personally, I prefer not to pollute the groun=
d with coolant of any kind and I really don=E2=80=99t want coolant possibly=
 spraying onto my tire while driving or stopping.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ron Fraser<u>=
</u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div sty=
le=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt =
solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:=
</b> Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"=
_blank">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gary<br><=
b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 19, 2021 9:26 AM<br><b>To:</b> michael king &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:michael.s.king@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">michael.s.k=
ing@gmail.com</a>&gt;; Douglas Lyle &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:douglasalyle@yaho=
o.com" target=3D"_blank">douglasalyle@yahoo.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> Tiger=
s Den &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">tigers=
@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap<u></u>=
<u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt">Or you were just over fillin=
g it.<br>It is normal for the Tiger to blow out the little hose until it ge=
ts down to where it needs to be.<br>Gary<br><br><u></u><u></u></p><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal">On 8/18/2021 11:38 PM, michael king via Tigers wrote:<u>=
</u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal">doug sounds like the spring wasnt strong enough or =
that perhaps very slightly to shallow?<br><br>On Thursday, 19 August 2021, =
Douglas Lyle via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><blockquo=
te style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-lef=
t:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;marg=
in-right:0in"><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">Joe, I&#39;ve had two failures wit=
h those Scott Drake caps.=C2=A0=C2=A0 They were about 10 years apart.=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 Both failed soon after installation.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 The 10 =
year gap was because I had forgotten that the first one failed and then 10 =
years later I bought another and it also failed.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Ended up=
 finding an NOS cap and that solved the problem.<u></u><u></u></span></p></=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:H=
elvetica,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">=
Both Scott Drake caps were allowing coolant to puke out after short drives.=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 Dimensions looked identical.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Your results may vary=
.=C2=A0 Just keep an eye on it.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-ser=
if"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u><=
/u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10=
pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">Doug<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetic=
a,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,san=
s-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">On Wednesday, August 18, 2021, 10:21:47 AM PDT=
, Joe Brown &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jbbrown1980@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">=
jbbrown1980@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote: <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,san=
s-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><div=
><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family=
:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">I have an update on my quest to =
find a radiator cap.=C2=A0 I wound up ordering a Scott Drake Mustang cap fr=
om CJ Pony Parts and it fits really well.=C2=A0 And since my temp gauge was=
 always pegged out really high I installed a mechanical temp gauge from Sum=
mit on my Edelbrock intake.=C2=A0 After idling for about 20 minutes the tem=
p never got over 190.=C2=A0 Now I need to take it out for a long drive and =
see how it does. <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,4=
2)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42=
)">Thanks for all of MKdoug soijds info from everybody.<u></u><u></u></span=
></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-f=
amily:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fa=
mily:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></span>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fa=
mily:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Joe Brown<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font=
-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></spa=
n></p><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;f=
ont-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 a=
t 9:35 AM Ron Fraser &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com"; target=3D"=
_blank">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><=
blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;bo=
rder-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.=
8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-famil=
y:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Jim <u></u><u></u></span></p><p=
><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(3=
8,40,42)">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Thank you for the pictures.<u></u><u></u></span=
></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;colo=
r:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size=
:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">It appears I ha=
ve the MOPAR 5220487 Filler cap =E2=80=93 good to know.<u></u><u></u></span=
></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;colo=
r:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size=
:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">This also indic=
ates that any 522xxxx number in the Parts List is a Chrysler part number =
=E2=80=93 excellent.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:10=
pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0<u></u><u></=
u></span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-se=
rif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Ron Fraser<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=
=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div style=3D"border-right:none;border-=
bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:=
3pt 0in 0in"><p><b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans=
-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;f=
ont-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> jimdamelio &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:jimdamelio@verizon.net"; target=3D"_blank">jimdamelio@verizon.ne=
t</a>&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 28, 2021 8:11 PM<br><b>To:</b> J=
oe Brown &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jbbrown1980@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">jbb=
rown1980@gmail.com</a>&gt;; Ron Fraser &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefr=
og.com" target=3D"_blank">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> Tigers=
 Den &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">Tigers@=
autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap<u></u><=
u></u></span></p></div></div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:H=
elvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p><di=
v><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:r=
gb(38,40,42)">Attached are pictures of the 9lb cap 5220487, 13lb cap 122481=
8 and a 13lb chrome Motorcraft cap.=C2=A0 The 9lb cap measures 1&quot; from=
 inside base to tip of plunger while both 13lb caps measure 1-1/8&quot;.=C2=
=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;fon=
t-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Jim D<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><=
span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,=
40,42)">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div><p><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:9.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(87,87,87)">Sent fr=
om my Galaxy</span><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans=
-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><p><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,4=
0,42)">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0<u></u><=
u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:He=
lvetica,sans-serif;color:black">-------- Original message --------</span><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,4=
0,42)"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt=
;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:black">From: Joe Brown via Tigers &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.=
team.net</a>&gt; </span><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica=
,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:black">Da=
te: 7/28/21 6:49 PM (GMT-05:00) </span><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-f=
amily:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><u></u><u></u></span></p></=
div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;=
color:black">To: Ron Fraser &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com"; tar=
get=3D"_blank">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>&gt; </span><span style=3D"font-size=
:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><u></u><u></u><=
/span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica=
,sans-serif;color:black">Cc: Tigers Den &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Tigers@autox.=
team.net" target=3D"_blank">Tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; </span><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><=
u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fa=
mily:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:black">Subject: Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap <=
/span><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:=
rgb(38,40,42)"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:black">=C2=A0</span><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)=
"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font=
-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Just to add to my confusi=
on I took a look at the Tiger Parts List Supplement (pub number 6601131) an=
d I&#39;m guessing this only covers the Tigers up to=C2=A0 B382001521 becau=
se it only shows the 1224725 header tank and Ron has=C2=A0 Parts List 66013=
34 which show two more tanks.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Parts List=C2=A0 66011=
31=C2=A0 says the 9 lb. cap is for &quot;later&quot; cars and the 13 lb. ca=
p is for &quot;earlier&quot; cars.=C2=A0 This seems to contradict what is i=
n TBON.=C2=A0 Is it possible that some of the earliest cars had 13 lb. caps=
 and then they went to 9 lb. caps until they changes the header tanks?<u></=
u><u></u></span></p><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helve=
tica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><=
div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(38,40,42)">The Rootes part number for the 9 lb. cap is 5220487 and whe=
n I Google that number I can see that is also a Mopar part number from back=
 in the day.=C2=A0 All of the usual sources want to cross this over to a 13=
 lb. cap.=C2=A0 I did find a 9 lb. cap made by Motorad but I can&#39;t find=
 what the stem length is.=C2=A0 I guess I will have to go down to the diffe=
rent part stores and look at what they have.=C2=A0=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,san=
s-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><=
span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,=
40,42)">Sunbeam Specialties has three different caps for sale but they are =
for Alpines, not Tigers.=C2=A0 I asked Rick if any of them would work for t=
he Tiger and he said the pressure rating was too low.=C2=A0=C2=A0<u></u><u>=
</u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helv=
etica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>=
<div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;colo=
r:rgb(38,40,42)">Ron, the G630 cap pulls up as a match for some older Land =
Rovers but I&#39;m only finding used ones.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><d=
iv><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:=
rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"=
font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">If any=
body has recently purchased a new cap that is working fine please let me kn=
ow what you got.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-=
size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0<u></=
u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family=
:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></span></p>=
</div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-seri=
f;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Joe Brown<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40=
,42)">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:=
10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">On Tue, Jul 27, =
2021 at 8:40 PM Joe Brown &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jbbrown1980@gmail.com"; targ=
et=3D"_blank">jbbrown1980@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>=
</div><blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:=
none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin:=
5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt"><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvet=
ica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">I pulled out my copy of TBON and he als=
o listed a 9 lb. cap up to B382001521 and 13 lb. after that=C2=A0<u></u><u>=
</u></span></p><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,=
sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><=
p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(=
38,40,42)">I sent an email to Rick at SS to see if his part number RC5 is t=
he cap you described. It doesn&#39;t say it&#39;s for the Tiger, it just sa=
ys it&#39;s for the series V.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p><span =
style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42=
)">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10p=
t;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">On Tue, Jul 27, 202=
1, 8:27 PM Ron Fraser &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com"; target=3D=
"_blank">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>=
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin:5pt 0i=
n 5pt 4.8pt"><div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helveti=
ca,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Parts List 6601334 lists 3 header tanks.=
<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helve=
tica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">1224725=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Header Tank=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 up to B382001521<u></u><u></u></span></p>=
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb=
(38,40,42)">5221224=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Header Tank=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 from B382001522 to B382001894<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
>1236126=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Header Tank =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 from B3=
82001895<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fami=
ly:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p=
><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rg=
b(38,40,42)">Graham Vickery sent me a drawing for Header Tank 1224725 and i=
t indicates Filler Cap 9 lbs.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0<u>=
</u><u></u></span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetic=
a,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">I don=E2=80=99t know if the drawings for =
the other 2 header tanks are available to see which Filler Cap they indicat=
e.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Hel=
vetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,4=
0,42)">Ron Fraser<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;=
font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u><=
/span></p><p><b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-se=
rif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font=
-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> Joe Brown &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:jbbrown1980@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">jbbrown1980@gmail.com</a>&=
gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 27, 2021 7:49 PM<br><b>To:</b> Ron Frase=
r &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com"; target=3D"_blank">rfraser@blu=
efrog.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> Tigers Den &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Tigers@aut=
ox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">Tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:=
</b> Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0<u=
></u><u></u></span></p><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:He=
lvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Thanks Ron, the .805&quot; dimensio=
n sounds like what I need.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p><span style=3D"=
font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0=
<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fa=
mily:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 6:37 P=
M Ron Fraser &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com"; target=3D"_blank">=
rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquo=
te style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-lef=
t:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin:5pt 0in 5pt 4.8=
pt"><div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-s=
erif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Joe<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 I believe I bought my radiator cap from Sunbeam Specialties.<u></u><=
u></u></span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,san=
s-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Cap indicates 9 lbs. and G630.<u></u><u></u></=
span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;=
color:rgb(38,40,42)">Rubber seal to rubber seal is .805=E2=80=9D.<u></u><u>=
</u></span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-=
serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">I installed a catch bottle for the header tank o=
verflow.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Catches any overflow which gets sucked back in when th=
e engine cools.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;fo=
nt-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;c=
olor:rgb(38,40,42)">The Parts lists indicates 9 lbs. later cars and 13 lbs.=
 early cars.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-=
family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span=
></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;colo=
r:rgb(38,40,42)">Tiger, An Exceptional Motorcar indicates B382001521 as las=
t unit with early header tank and 9 lb. cap =E2=80=93 B382001522 1<sup>st</=
sup> Tiger with updated header tank and 13 lb. cap.<u></u><u></u></span></p=
><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rg=
b(38,40,42)">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:10p=
t;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Well, no really goo=
d help there.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font=
-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;col=
or:rgb(38,40,42)">I=E2=80=99m thinking 9 lbs. for early cars and 13 lbs. fo=
r later cars is correct<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size=
:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0<u></u><u=
></u></span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans=
-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Ron=C2=A0 Fraser<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40=
,42)">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-=
family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span=
></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;colo=
r:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rg=
b(38,40,42)"> Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net"; t=
arget=3D"_blank">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>=
Joe Brown<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 27, 2021 6:07 PM<br><b>To:</b> Tige=
rs Den &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">Tiger=
s@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Radiator Cap<u></u><u>=
</u></span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-=
serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=
Hi,<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fami=
ly:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p=
></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-ser=
if;color:rgb(38,40,42)">I&#39;m hoping one of you guys can tell me what rad=
iator cap I should be using.=C2=A0 I&#39;ve tried a cap that was listed as =
being for a Tiger on Autozone&#39;s website but I think the pressure spring=
 part under the cap is too short.=C2=A0 I almost immediately start getting =
water out of the overflow tube as the engine warms up.=C2=A0 I measured the=
 depth of the expansion tank opening from the top edge to the flange where =
the spring part of the cap would sit and got .777&quot;.=C2=A0 I measured t=
he cap from the big rubber seal just under the cap to the small rubber seal=
 at the end of the spring and got something like .75&quot;.=C2=A0 So it loo=
ks like I need a cap with a longer spring stem.=C2=A0=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></=
span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,=
sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><=
p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(=
38,40,42)">A brand name and part number would be great=C2=A0 And also, what=
 should the pressure rating be?=C2=A0 What I have is 13 lbs.<u></u><u></u><=
/span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica=
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