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Or you were just over filling it.
It is normal for the Tiger to blow out the little hose until it gets
down to where it needs to be.
Gary
On 8/18/2021 11:38 PM, michael king via Tigers wrote:
> doug sounds like the spring wasnt strong enough or that perhaps very
> slightly to shallow?
>
> On Thursday, 19 August 2021, Douglas Lyle via Tigers
>
> Joe, I've had two failures with those Scott Drake caps.  They
> were about 10 years apart.   Both failed soon after
> installation.   The 10 year gap was because I had forgotten that
> the first one failed and then 10 years later I bought another and
> it also failed. Ended up finding an NOS cap and that solved the
> problem.
>
> Both Scott Drake caps were allowing coolant to puke out after
> short drives.  Dimensions looked identical.  Your results may
> vary. Just keep an eye on it.
>
>
> Doug
>
> On Wednesday, August 18, 2021, 10:21:47 AM PDT, Joe Brown
>
>
> I have an update on my quest to find a radiator cap. I wound up
> ordering a Scott Drake Mustang cap from CJ Pony Parts and it fits
> really well. And since my temp gauge was always pegged out really
> high I installed a mechanical temp gauge from Summit on my
> Edelbrock intake. After idling for about 20 minutes the temp
> never got over 190. Now I need to take it out for a long drive
> and see how it does.
>
> Thanks for all of MKdoug soijds info from everybody.
>
> Thanks,
> Joe Brown
>
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 9:35 AM Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com
>
> Jim
>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Thank you for the pictures.
>
> It appears I have the MOPAR 5220487 Filler cap â?? good to know.
>
> This also indicates that any 522xxxx number in the Parts List
> is a Chrysler part number â?? excellent.
>
> Ron Fraser
>
> *From:* jimdamelio <jimdamelio@verizon.net
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 28, 2021 8:11 PM
> *To:* Joe Brown <jbbrown1980@gmail.com
> *Cc:* Tigers Den <Tigers@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
>
> Attached are pictures of the 9lb cap 5220487, 13lb cap 1224818
> and a 13lb chrome Motorcraft cap. The 9lb cap measures 1"
> from inside base to tip of plunger while both 13lb caps
> measure 1-1/8".
>
> Jim D
>
> Sent from my Galaxy
>
> -------- Original message --------
>
> From: Joe Brown via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net
>
> Date: 7/28/21 6:49 PM (GMT-05:00)
>
> To: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com
>
> Cc: Tigers Den <Tigers@autox.team.net
>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
>
> Just to add to my confusion I took a look at the Tiger Parts
> List Supplement (pub number 6601131) and I'm guessing this
> only covers the Tigers up to B382001521 because it only shows
> the 1224725 header tank and Ron has Parts List 6601334 which
> show two more tanks.    Parts List 6601131 says the 9 lb. cap
> is for "later" cars and the 13 lb. cap is for "earlier" cars.Â
> This seems to contradict what is in TBON. Is it possible that
> some of the earliest cars had 13 lb. caps and then they went
> to 9 lb. caps until they changes the header tanks?
>
> The Rootes part number for the 9 lb. cap is 5220487 and when I
> Google that number I can see that is also a Mopar part number
> from back in the day. All of the usual sources want to cross
> this over to a 13 lb. cap. I did find a 9 lb. cap made by
> Motorad but I can't find what the stem length is. I guess I
> will have to go down to the different part stores and look at
> what they have.
>
> Sunbeam Specialties has three different caps for sale but they
> are for Alpines, not Tigers. I asked Rick if any of them
> would work for the Tiger and he said the pressure rating was
> too low.
>
> Ron, the G630 cap pulls up as a match for some older Land
> Rovers but I'm only finding used ones.
>
> If anybody has recently purchased a new cap that is working
> fine please let me know what you got.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe Brown
>
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 8:40 PM Joe Brown
>
> I pulled out my copy of TBON and he also listed a 9 lb.
> cap up to B382001521 and 13 lb. after that
>
> I sent an email to Rick at SS to see if his part number
> RC5 is the cap you described. It doesn't say it's for the
> Tiger, it just says it's for the series V.
>
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 8:27 PM Ron Fraser
>
> Parts List 6601334 lists 3 header tanks.
>
> 1224725 Header Tank      up to B382001521
>
> 5221224 Header Tank      from B382001522 to B382001894
>
> 1236126 Header Tank      from B382001895
>
> Graham Vickery sent me a drawing for Header Tank
> 1224725 and it indicates Filler Cap 9 lbs.
>
> I donâ??t know if the drawings for the other 2 header
> tanks are available to see which Filler Cap they indicate.
>
> Ron Fraser
>
> *From:* Joe Brown <jbbrown1980@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 27, 2021 7:49 PM
> *To:* Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com
> *Cc:* Tigers Den <Tigers@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
>
> Thanks Ron, the .805" dimension sounds like what I need.
>
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 6:37 PM Ron Fraser
> wrote:
>
> Joe
>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â I believe I bought my
> radiator cap
> from Sunbeam Specialties.
>
> Cap indicates 9 lbs. and G630.
>
> Rubber seal to rubber seal is .805â??.
>
> I installed a catch bottle for the header tank
> overflow.  Catches any overflow which gets sucked
> back in when the engine cools.
>
> The Parts lists indicates 9 lbs. later cars and 13
> lbs. early cars.
>
> Tiger, An Exceptional Motorcar indicates
> B382001521 as last unit with early header tank and
> 9 lb. cap â?? B382001522 1^st Tiger with updated
> header tank and 13 lb. cap.
>
> Well, no really good help there.
>
> Iâ??m thinking 9 lbs. for early cars and 13 lbs. for
> later cars is correct
>
> Ron Fraser
>
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net
> Of *Joe Brown
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 27, 2021 6:07 PM
> *To:* Tigers Den <Tigers@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Tigers] Radiator Cap
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm hoping one of you guys can tell me what
> radiator cap I should be using. I've tried a cap
> that was listed as being for a Tiger on Autozone's
> website but I think the pressure spring part under
> the cap is too short. I almost immediately start
> getting water out of the overflow tube as the
> engine warms up. I measured the depth of the
> expansion tank opening from the top edge to the
> flange where the spring part of the cap would sit
> and got .777". I measured the cap from the big
> rubber seal just under the cap to the small rubber
> seal at the end of the spring and got something
> like .75". So it looks like I need a cap with a
> longer spring stem.
>
> A brand name and part number would be great And
> also, what should the pressure rating be? What I
> have is 13 lbs.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe Brown
>
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Or you were just over filling it.<br>
It is normal for the Tiger to blow out the little hose until it gets
down to where it needs to be.<br>
Gary<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/18/2021 11:38 PM, michael king via
Tigers wrote:<br>
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doug sounds like the spring wasnt strong enough or that perhaps
very slightly to shallow?<br>
<br>
On Thursday, 19 August 2021, Douglas Lyle via Tigers <<a
href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";
moz-do-not-send="true">tigers@autox.team.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div style="font-family:Helvetica
Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<div dir="ltr">Joe, I've had two failures with those Scott
Drake caps.  They were about 10 years apart.   Both
failed soon after installation.   The 10 year gap was
because I had forgotten that the first one failed and then
10 years later I bought another and it also failed.  Â
Ended up finding an NOS cap and that solved the problem.</div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">Both Scott Drake caps were allowing coolant
to puke out after short drives.  Dimensions looked
identical.  Your results may vary. Just keep an eye on
it.</div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">Doug<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="font-family:'Helvetica
Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a">
<div> On Wednesday, August 18, 2021, 10:21:47 AM PDT, Joe
Brown <<a href="mailto:jbbrown1980@gmail.com";
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">jbbrown1980@gmail.com</a>>
wrote: </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div dir="ltr">I have an update on my quest to find
a radiator cap. I wound up ordering a Scott Drake
Mustang cap from CJ Pony Parts and it fits really
well. And since my temp gauge was always pegged
out really high I installed a mechanical temp
gauge from Summit on my Edelbrock intake. After
idling for about 20 minutes the temp never got
over 190. Now I need to take it out for a long
drive and see how it does.
<div><br clear="none">
</div>
<div>Thanks for all of MKdoug soijds info from
everybody.</div>
<div><br clear="none">
</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Joe Brown</div>
</div>
<br clear="none">
<div>
<div>
<div dir="ltr">On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 9:35 AM
Ron Fraser <<a shape="rect"
href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com";
rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>>
wrote:<br clear="none">
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<div>
<p>Jim </p>
<p>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Thank you for
the
pictures.</p>
<p>Â </p>
<p>It appears I have the MOPAR 5220487
Filler cap â?? good to know.</p>
<p>Â </p>
<p>This also indicates that any 522xxxx
number in the Parts List is a Chrysler
part number â?? excellent.</p>
<p>Â </p>
<p>Ron Fraser</p>
<p>Â </p>
<div>
<div
style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt
solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in
0in">
<p><b>From:</b> jimdamelio <<a
shape="rect"
href="mailto:jimdamelio@verizon.net";
rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">jimdamelio@verizon.net</a>>
<br clear="none">
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 28,
2021 8:11 PM<br clear="none">
<b>To:</b> Joe Brown <<a
shape="rect"
href="mailto:jbbrown1980@gmail.com";
rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">jbbrown1980@gmail.com</a>>;
Ron Fraser <<a shape="rect"
href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com";
rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>><br
clear="none">
<b>Cc:</b> Tigers Den <<a
shape="rect"
href="mailto:Tigers@autox.team.net";
rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">Tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br
clear="none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers]
Radiator Cap</p>
</div>
</div>
<p>Â </p>
<div>
<p>Attached are pictures of the 9lb cap
5220487, 13lb cap 1224818 and a 13lb
chrome Motorcraft cap. The 9lb cap
measures 1" from inside base to tip of
plunger while both 13lb caps measure
1-1/8". </p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Â </p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Jim D</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Â </p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p><span
style="font-size:9.5pt;color:rgb(87,87,87)">Sent
from my Galaxy</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p>Â </p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Â </p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style="color:black">--------
Original message --------</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style="color:black">From: Joe
Brown via Tigers <<a shape="rect"
href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">tigers@autox.team.net</a>>
</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style="color:black">Date:
7/28/21 6:49 PM (GMT-05:00) </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style="color:black">To: Ron
Fraser <<a shape="rect"
href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com";
rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>>
</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style="color:black">Cc: Tigers
Den <<a shape="rect"
href="mailto:Tigers@autox.team.net";
rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">Tigers@autox.team.net</a>>
</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style="color:black">Subject:
Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style="color:black">Â </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Just to add to my confusion I took a
look at the Tiger Parts List
Supplement (pub number 6601131) and
I'm guessing this only covers the
Tigers up to B382001521 because it
only shows the 1224725 header tank and
Ron has Parts List 6601334 which show
two more tanks.    Parts ListÂ
6601131Â says the 9 lb. cap is for
"later" cars and the 13 lb. cap is for
"earlier" cars. This seems to
contradict what is in TBON. Is it
possible that some of the earliest
cars had 13 lb. caps and then they
went to 9 lb. caps until they changes
the header tanks?</p>
<div>
<p>Â </p>
</div>
<div>
<p>The Rootes part number for the 9
lb. cap is 5220487 and when I Google
that number I can see that is also a
Mopar part number from back in the
day. All of the usual sources want
to cross this over to a 13 lb. cap.Â
I did find a 9 lb. cap made by
Motorad but I can't find what the
stem length is. I guess I will have
to go down to the different part
stores and look at what they have.  </p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Â </p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Sunbeam Specialties has three
different caps for sale but they are
for Alpines, not Tigers. I asked
Rick if any of them would work for
the Tiger and he said the pressure
rating was too low.  </p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Â </p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Ron, the G630 cap pulls up as a
match for some older Land Rovers but
I'm only finding used ones.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Â </p>
</div>
<div>
<p>If anybody has recently purchased a
new cap that is working fine please
let me know what you got.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Â </p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Thanks,</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Joe Brown</p>
</div>
</div>
<p>Â </p>
<div>
<div>
<p>On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 8:40 PM Joe
Brown <<a shape="rect"
href="mailto:jbbrown1980@gmail.com";
rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">jbbrown1980@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</p>
</div>
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style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt
solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in
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6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<p>I pulled out my copy of TBON and
he also listed a 9 lb. cap up to
B382001521 and 13 lb. after that </p>
<div>
<p>Â </p>
</div>
<div>
<p>I sent an email to Rick at SS
to see if his part number RC5 is
the cap you described. It
doesn't say it's for the Tiger,
it just says it's for the series
V.</p>
</div>
</div>
<p>Â </p>
<div>
<div>
<p>On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 8:27 PM
Ron Fraser <<a shape="rect"
href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com";
rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>>
wrote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote
style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt
solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in
0in 0in
6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<div>
<p>Parts List 6601334 lists 3
header tanks.</p>
<p>1224725Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â
Header Tank      up to
B382001521</p>
<p>5221224Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â
Header Tank      from
B382001522 to B382001894</p>
<p>1236126Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â
Header Tank      from
B382001895</p>
<p>Â </p>
<p>Graham Vickery sent me a
drawing for Header Tank
1224725 and it indicates
Filler Cap 9 lbs.</p>
<p>Â </p>
<p>I donâ??t know if the
drawings for the other 2
header tanks are available
to see which Filler Cap they
indicate.</p>
<p>Â </p>
<p>Ron Fraser</p>
<p>Â </p>
<p><b>From:</b> Joe Brown <<a
shape="rect"
href="mailto:jbbrown1980@gmail.com";
rel="nofollow"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">jbbrown1980@gmail.com</a>>
<br clear="none">
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July
27, 2021 7:49 PM<br
clear="none">
<b>To:</b> Ron Fraser <<a
shape="rect"
href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com";
rel="nofollow"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>><br
clear="none">
<b>Cc:</b> Tigers Den <<a
shape="rect"
href="mailto:Tigers@autox.team.net";
rel="nofollow"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">Tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br
clear="none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers]
Radiator Cap</p>
<p>Â </p>
<div>
<p>Thanks Ron, the .805"
dimension sounds like what
I need.</p>
</div>
<p>Â </p>
<div>
<div>
<p>On Tue, Jul 27, 2021,
6:37 PM Ron Fraser <<a
shape="rect"
href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com";
rel="nofollow"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>>
wrote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote
style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt
solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in
0in 0in 6pt;margin:5pt 0in
5pt 4.8pt">
<div>
<div>
<p>Joe</p>
<p>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â I
believe I bought my
radiator cap from
Sunbeam Specialties.</p>
<p>Cap indicates 9
lbs. and G630.</p>
<p>Rubber seal to
rubber seal is
.805â??.</p>
<p>I installed a catch
bottle for the
header tank
overflow.  Catches
any overflow which
gets sucked back in
when the engine
cools.</p>
<p>Â </p>
<p>The Parts lists
indicates 9 lbs.
later cars and 13
lbs. early cars.</p>
<p>Â </p>
<p>Tiger, An
Exceptional Motorcar
indicates B382001521
as last unit with
early header tank
and 9 lb. cap â??
B382001522 1<sup>st</sup>
Tiger with updated
header tank and 13
lb. cap.</p>
<p>Â </p>
<p>Well, no really
good help there.</p>
<p>Â </p>
<p>Iâ??m thinking 9 lbs.
for early cars and
13 lbs. for later
cars is correct</p>
<p>Â </p>
<p>Ron Fraser</p>
<p>Â </p>
<p>Â </p>
<p>Â </p>
<p><b>From:</b> Tigers
<<a shape="rect"
href="mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net"; rel="nofollow"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a><wbr>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Joe
Brown<br
clear="none">
<b>Sent:</b>
Tuesday, July 27,
2021 6:07 PM<br
clear="none">
<b>To:</b> Tigers
Den <<a
shape="rect"
href="mailto:Tigers@autox.team.net";
rel="nofollow"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">Tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br
clear="none">
<b>Subject:</b>
[Tigers] Radiator
Cap</p>
<p>Â </p>
<div>
<p>Hi,</p>
<div>
<p>Â </p>
</div>
<div>
<p>I'm hoping one
of you guys can
tell me what
radiator cap I
should be
using. I've
tried a cap that
was listed as
being for a
Tiger on
Autozone's
website but I
think the
pressure spring
part under the
cap is too
short. I almost
immediately
start getting
water out of the
overflow tube as
the engine warms
up. I measured
the depth of the
expansion tank
opening from the
top edge to the
flange where the
spring part of
the cap would
sit and got
.777". I
measured the cap
from the big
rubber seal just
under the cap to
the small rubber
seal at the end
of the spring
and got
something like
.75". So it
looks like I
need a cap with
a longer spring
stem.  </p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Â </p>
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<p>A brand name
and part number
would be greatÂ
And also, what
should the
pressure rating
be? What I have
is 13 lbs.</p>
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