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Re: the Centerforce Clutch:
I have had two of them and highly approve of and recommend them.
They come rated for the amount of power your engine produces.
My first one was installed on my stock 289 Block, but later on I got
carried away and had it rebuilt into a 331 cu in 318hp unit.
It now exceeded the rating of my first Centerforce unit, so I replaced it
with one rated for 400hp.
Both worked flawlessly, and the pedal pressure is light enough to be
comfortable for my 130# wife to use without complaint.
Excellent units!
Dave in Nova Scotia
B382000450LRXFE 1965 Tiger
On Fri, May 28, 2021, 12:50 PM Ron Fraser via Tigers, <tigers@autox.team.ne=
t>
wrote:
> Gary
>
> My point here is that if you drop the clutch rod you=E2=
=80=99re
> not going anywhere.
>
>
>
> Your spring with the stock clip is excellent but what if something
> unexpected happens.
>
> Rust happens, road debris happens, cylinder rubber seals degrade happens,
> many things can happen out on the road.
>
>
>
> Call it safety wire or tether wire, I want to make sure not matter what
> the clutch rod is not lost and I have to be towed.
>
> Safety wire is usually stainless steel so it should not rust and it is
> just there with no tension or flexing, its just along for the ride until
> its needed.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Gary
> *Sent:* Friday, May 28, 2021 10:10 AM
> *To:* tigers@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Clutch issue
>
>
>
> I've never heard of safety wire but if you have the stock clip to hold th=
e
> rod to the clutch arm,
> and you add a return spring to the clutch arm, there isn't much of a way
> for it to fall out.
> And you will get max stroke and save the throwout bearing.
> Gary
>
> On 5/28/2021 5:19 AM, Ron Fraser wrote:
>
> Jerry
>
> I always recommend that everyone should put safety wire o=
n
> the clutch rod =E2=80=93 just in case the rod gets into a position it cou=
ld fall.
>
>
>
> If the clutch rod falls out your basically a tow it away car.
>
> I think I have a safety wire on the clutch rod to the clutch fork; this
> should prevent the rod from ever totally leaving the car.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net>
> <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Jerry Christopherson
> *Sent:* Friday, May 28, 2021 12:03 AM
> *To:* Tiger Autox <TIGERS@AUTOX.TEAM.NET> <TIGERS@AUTOX.TEAM.NET>
> *Subject:* [Tigers] Clutch issue
>
>
>
> Thanks for the ideas from all of you. The issue of a longer push rod
> (which I have, 4.5 inches) is that you can only go up against the throw o=
ut
> bearing just so far. Right now I=E2=80=99m touching the bearing (which I=
don=E2=80=99t
> want of course). Today I received my order from S.S. (new kits for the
> master and slave) and it seems to have improved the issue, I=E2=80=99ll t=
ry driving
> the car tomorrow to see if it=E2=80=99s livable. I let someone talk me in=
to a RAM
> clutch, should have gone with a Centerforce maybe? Rick from S. S. said
> people have had good luck with them. I=E2=80=99m now of the feeling if =
you aren=E2=80=99t
> racing, a standard Mustang clutch is more than enough for the Tiger. The
> idea of a higher volume (larger dia.) master also suggested by Rick, is
> that it will make the peddle force higher. Another issue is how far can
> one allow the slave piston to travel without coming out of the cylinder
> (mine does not have the retaining clip like it shoes in the manual). Min=
e
> has a max movement of around 1.350, The piston could come out another .30=
0
> ,but that would have the front of the piston .300 past the end of the
> cylinder, probably not a good thing!
>
> Thanks again for your responses! Jerry
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Re: the Centerforce Clutch:=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto"><br></=
div><div dir=3D"auto">I have had two of them and highly approve of and reco=
mmend them.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">They come rated for the amount of =
power your engine produces.=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto">My first one was install=
ed on my stock 289 Block, but later on I got carried away and had it rebuil=
t into a 331 cu in 318hp unit.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">It now exceeded=
the rating of my first Centerforce unit, so I replaced it with one rated f=
or 400hp.</div><div dir=3D"auto">Both worked flawlessly,=C2=A0 and the peda=
l pressure is light enough to be comfortable for my 130# wife to use withou=
t complaint.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Excellent u=
nits!</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Dave in Nova Scoti=
a</div><div dir=3D"auto">B382000450LRXFE=C2=A0 1965 Tiger</div><div dir=3D"=
auto"><br></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, May 28, 2021, 12:50 PM Ron Fraser via Tigers,=
<<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a>>=
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8=
ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D=
"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div class=3D"m_2662069569788297852WordSection1"><p=
class=3D"MsoNormal">Gary<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 My point here is that if you drop the clutch rod you=E2=80=99re not =
going anywhere.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Your spring with the stock clip is excellent bu=
t what if something unexpected happens.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal">Rust happens, road debris happens, cylinder rubber seals degrade happe=
ns, many things can happen out on the road.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Call it safety wire=
or tether wire, I want to make sure not matter what the clutch rod is not =
lost and I have to be towed.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Safety=
wire is usually stainless steel so it should not rust and it is just there=
with no tension or flexing, its just along for the ride until its needed.<=
u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">Ron Fraser<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div styl=
e=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Tigers <<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-bou=
nces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">tigers-bounces@au=
tox.team.net</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gary<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 2=
8, 2021 10:10 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; tar=
get=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:<=
/b> Re: [Tigers] Clutch issue<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-botto=
m:12.0pt">I've never heard of safety wire but if you have the stock cli=
p to hold the rod to the clutch arm,<br>and you add a return spring to the =
clutch arm, there isn't much of a way for it to fall out.<br>And you wi=
ll get max stroke and save the throwout bearing.<br>Gary<br><br><u></u><u><=
/u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 5/28/2021 5:19 AM, Ron Fraser wrote:<=
u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:=
5.0pt"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jerry<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I always recommend that everyone should put safety wire =
on the clutch rod =E2=80=93 just in case the rod gets into a position it co=
uld fall.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal">If the clutch rod falls out your basically a tow it a=
way car.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I think I have a safety wi=
re on the clutch rod to the clutch fork; this should prevent the rod from e=
ver totally leaving the car. <u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=
=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ron Fraser<u></u><u></u></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><div><div style=3D"border:none;=
border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><b>From:</b> Tigers <a href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer"><tigers-bounces@autox.team.net><=
/a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jerry Christopherson<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 28=
, 2021 12:03 AM<br><b>To:</b> Tiger Autox <a href=3D"mailto:TIGERS@AUTOX.TE=
AM.NET" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer"><TIGERS@AUTOX.TEAM.NET><=
/a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Clutch issue<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Thanks =
for the ideas from all of you.=C2=A0 The issue of a longer push rod (which =
I have, 4.5 inches) is that you can only go up against the throw out bearin=
g just so far.=C2=A0 Right now I=E2=80=99m touching the bearing (which I do=
n=E2=80=99t want of course).=C2=A0 Today I received my order from S.S. (new=
kits for the master and slave) and it seems to have improved the issue, I=
=E2=80=99ll try driving the car tomorrow to see if it=E2=80=99s livable. I =
let someone talk me into a =C2=A0RAM clutch, should have gone with a Center=
force maybe?=C2=A0 Rick from S. S. said people have had good luck with them=
. =C2=A0=C2=A0I=E2=80=99m now of the feeling if you aren=E2=80=99t racing, =
a standard Mustang clutch is more than enough for the Tiger.=C2=A0 The idea=
of a higher volume (larger dia.) master also suggested by Rick, is that it=
will make the peddle force higher.=C2=A0 Another issue is how far can one =
allow the slave=C2=A0 piston to travel without coming out of the cylinder (=
mine does not have the retaining clip like it shoes in the manual).=C2=A0 M=
ine has a max movement of around 1.350, The piston could come out another .=
300 ,but that would have the front of the piston .300 past the end of the c=
ylinder, probably not a good thing!</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-=
serif">Thanks again for your responses!=C2=A0 Jerry</span><u></u><u></u></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br><br><u></u><u></u></p><pre>____________________=
___________________________<u></u><u></u></pre><pre><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p=
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