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Gary
My point here is that if you drop the clutch rod you're not
going anywhere.
Your spring with the stock clip is excellent but what if something
unexpected happens.
Rust happens, road debris happens, cylinder rubber seals degrade happens,
many things can happen out on the road.
Call it safety wire or tether wire, I want to make sure not matter what the
clutch rod is not lost and I have to be towed.
Safety wire is usually stainless steel so it should not rust and it is just
there with no tension or flexing, its just along for the ride until its
needed.
Ron Fraser
From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Gary
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 10:10 AM
To: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Clutch issue
I've never heard of safety wire but if you have the stock clip to hold the
rod to the clutch arm,
and you add a return spring to the clutch arm, there isn't much of a way for
it to fall out.
And you will get max stroke and save the throwout bearing.
Gary
On 5/28/2021 5:19 AM, Ron Fraser wrote:
Jerry
I always recommend that everyone should put safety wire on
the clutch rod - just in case the rod gets into a position it could fall.
If the clutch rod falls out your basically a tow it away car.
I think I have a safety wire on the clutch rod to the clutch fork; this
should prevent the rod from ever totally leaving the car.
Ron Fraser
<tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Jerry Christopherson
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 12:03 AM
Subject: [Tigers] Clutch issue
Thanks for the ideas from all of you. The issue of a longer push rod (which
I have, 4.5 inches) is that you can only go up against the throw out bearing
just so far. Right now I'm touching the bearing (which I don't want of
course). Today I received my order from S.S. (new kits for the master and
slave) and it seems to have improved the issue, I'll try driving the car
tomorrow to see if it's livable. I let someone talk me into a RAM clutch,
should have gone with a Centerforce maybe? Rick from S. S. said people have
had good luck with them. I'm now of the feeling if you aren't racing, a
standard Mustang clutch is more than enough for the Tiger. The idea of a
higher volume (larger dia.) master also suggested by Rick, is that it will
make the peddle force higher. Another issue is how far can one allow the
slave piston to travel without coming out of the cylinder (mine does not
have the retaining clip like it shoes in the manual). Mine has a max
movement of around 1.350, The piston could come out another .300 ,but that
would have the front of the piston .300 past the end of the cylinder,
probably not a good thing!
Thanks again for your responses! Jerry
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class=3DMsoNormal>Gary<o:p></o:p></p><p =
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nbsp; My point here is that if you drop =
the clutch rod you’re not going anywhere.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Your spring =
with the stock clip is excellent but what if something unexpected =
happens.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Rust happens, road debris =
happens, cylinder rubber seals degrade happens, many things can happen =
out on the road.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Call it =
safety wire or tether wire, I want to make sure not matter what the =
clutch rod is not lost and I have to be towed.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Safety wire is usually stainless steel so it should =
not rust and it is just there with no tension or flexing, its just along =
for the ride until its needed.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Ron =
Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tigers =
<tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Gary<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 28, 2021 10:10 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
tigers@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Clutch =
issue<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I've never heard of safety wire but if =
you have the stock clip to hold the rod to the clutch arm,<br>and you =
add a return spring to the clutch arm, there isn't much of a way for it =
to fall out.<br>And you will get max stroke and save the throwout =
bearing.<br>Gary<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
5/28/2021 5:19 AM, Ron Fraser wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Jerry<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> &=
nbsp; I always recommend that everyone =
should put safety wire on the clutch rod – just in case the rod =
gets into a position it could fall.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>If the =
clutch rod falls out your basically a tow it away car.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I think I have a safety wire on the clutch rod to the =
clutch fork; this should prevent the rod from ever totally leaving the =
car. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tigers <a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net";><tigers-bounces@autox.te=
am.net></a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jerry Christopherson<br><b>Sent:</b> =
Friday, May 28, 2021 12:03 AM<br><b>To:</b> Tiger Autox <a =
href=3D"mailto:TIGERS@AUTOX.TEAM.NET";><TIGERS@AUTOX.TEAM.NET></a><b=
r><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Clutch issue<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Thanks for the =
ideas from all of you. The issue of a longer push rod (which I =
have, 4.5 inches) is that you can only go up against the throw out =
bearing just so far. Right now I’m touching the bearing =
(which I don’t want of course). Today I received my order =
from S.S. (new kits for the master and slave) and it seems to have =
improved the issue, I’ll try driving the car tomorrow to see if =
it’s livable. I let someone talk me into a RAM clutch, =
should have gone with a Centerforce maybe? Rick from S. S. said =
people have had good luck with them. I’m now of the =
feeling if you aren’t racing, a standard Mustang clutch is more =
than enough for the Tiger. The idea of a higher volume (larger =
dia.) master also suggested by Rick, is that it will make the peddle =
force higher. Another issue is how far can one allow the =
slave piston to travel without coming out of the cylinder (mine =
does not have the retaining clip like it shoes in the manual). =
Mine has a max movement of around 1.350, The piston could come out =
another .300 ,but that would have the front of the piston .300 past the =
end of the cylinder, probably not a good thing!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Thanks again =
for your responses! Jerry</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
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