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To: eric@megageek.com,Shop-talk@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] automotive connector breakout wires
From: Steven Trovato <strovato@optonline.net> mail.megageek.com>
Date: Thu, 23 May 2024 11:12:48 -0400
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Power probe is great.  I have one.  In my case I needed to apply 12V 
to one pin and ground to another.  Then switch which pin got which to 
reverse.  Would almost need two power probes.  And the real problem 
is getting the 12V and ground to the pins.  I'm not steady enough to 
freehand the probe tip into the connector to the correct pin, 
especially if hitting the wrong pin or bridging two together might 
have bad consequences.

At 08:19 AM 5/23/2024, eric@megageek.com wrote:
>Steven
>
>Not sure this is the perfect solution to your problem, but the power probe...
><https://www.powerprobe.com/>https://www.powerprobe.com/
>can offer both +12vdc and -12vdc with one pin (among a massive 
>amount of other features.)
>
>It ain't cheap, but it is an amazing tool that will help with all 
>electrical work on vehicles.
>
>Moose
>
>
>
>
>
>
>From:        Steven Trovato <strovato@optonline.net>
>To:        Shop-talk@autox.team.net
>Date:        05/23/2024 12:54 AM
>Subject:        [Shop-talk] automotive connector breakout wires
>Sent by:        "Shop-talk" <shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net>
>
>
>
>
>I need access to the individual pins in automotive
>connectors.  Sometimes there are other approaches like back probing
>that work.  But other times I need to actually reach into the
>connector and connect to a pin or socket.  Most recently I was
>working on the power running boards on my Ford Expedition.  I wanted
>to apply 12 Volts to one particular pin and ground to a different pin
>to actuate the motor.  Switching the two makes the motor operate in
>the other direction.  That's how the running boards extend or
>retract.  Fortunately, the two pins I needed were separated by an
>unused pin location and I was able to use some jumper wires with
>small alligator clips.  That worked out, but if the pins had been
>adjacent I wouldn't have had enough room.  I see there are some
>breakout wire sets available like
>this:
><https://www.amazon.com/HT306-Breakout-Leads-Diagnostic-Oscilliscope/dp/B07QXZ79J2>https://www.amazon.com/HT306-Breakout-Leads-Diagnostic-Oscilliscope/dp/B07QXZ79J2.
> 
>
>This particular one seems to be designed to connect to an
>oscilloscope, which is not my situation.  There are also sets of
>automotive pins available like this:
><https://www.amazon.com/Connector-Terminal-Automotive-Electrical-Removal/dp/B0CRR3GGF1/ref=sr_1_3>https://www.amazon.com/Connector-Terminal-Automotive-Electrical-Removal/dp/B0CRR3GGF1/ref=sr_1_3.
> 
>
>I suppose I could make my own wires as needed.  So, what do you guys
>use for these situations?  Of course next time it will probably be a
>different car and pins will probably be a different size and/or
>shape.  I am sure I won't have every possible size and type, but I'd
>like to be able to cover a lot of the possibilities.  Have you found
>something that works for you?  Thanks.
>
>-Steve T.
>
>
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Power probe is great.&nbsp; I have one.&nbsp; In my case I needed to
apply 12V to one pin and ground to another.&nbsp; Then switch which pin
got which to reverse.&nbsp; Would almost need two power probes.&nbsp; And
the real problem is getting the 12V and ground to the pins.&nbsp; I'm not
steady enough to freehand the probe tip into the connector to the correct
pin, especially if hitting the wrong pin or bridging two together might
have bad consequences.  <br><br>
At 08:19 AM 5/23/2024, eric@megageek.com wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""><font size=2>Steven</font>
<br><br>
<font size=2>Not sure this is the perfect solution to your problem, but
the power probe...</font> <br>
<font size=2 color="#0000FF"><a href="https://www.powerprobe.com/";>
https://www.powerprobe.com/</a></font> <br>
<font size=2>can offer both +12vdc and -12vdc with one pin (among a
massive amount of other features.)</font> <br><br>
<font size=2>It ain't cheap, but it is an amazing tool that will help
with all electrical work on vehicles.</font> <br><br>
<font size=2>Moose</font> <br><br>
<br><br>
<br><br>
<br>
<font size=1 color="#5F5F5F">
From:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</font><font size=1>Steven Trovato &lt;strovato@optonline.net&gt;</font>
<br>
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To:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</font><font size=1>Shop-talk@autox.team.net</font> <br>
<font size=1 color="#5F5F5F">
Date:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</font><font size=1>05/23/2024 12:54 AM</font> <br>
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Subject:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</font><font size=1>[Shop-talk] automotive connector breakout
wires</font> <br>
<font size=1 color="#5F5F5F">Sent
by:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</font><font size=1>&quot;Shop-talk&quot;
&lt;shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net&gt;</font> <br>
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<tt><font face="Courier New, Courier" size=2>I need access to the
individual pins in automotive <br>
connectors.&nbsp; Sometimes there are other approaches like back probing
<br>
that work.&nbsp; But other times I need to actually reach into the <br>
connector and connect to a pin or socket.&nbsp; Most recently I was <br>
working on the power running boards on my Ford Expedition.&nbsp; I wanted
<br>
to apply 12 Volts to one particular pin and ground to a different pin
<br>
to actuate the motor.&nbsp; Switching the two makes the motor operate in
<br>
the other direction.&nbsp; That's how the running boards extend or <br>
retract.&nbsp; Fortunately, the two pins I needed were separated by an
<br>
unused pin location and I was able to use some jumper wires with <br>
small alligator clips.&nbsp; That worked out, but if the pins had been
<br>
adjacent I wouldn't have had enough room.&nbsp; I see there are some
<br>
breakout wire sets available like <br>
this: <br>
<a 
href="https://www.amazon.com/HT306-Breakout-Leads-Diagnostic-Oscilliscope/dp/B07QXZ79J2";>
https://www.amazon.com/HT306-Breakout-Leads-Diagnostic-Oscilliscope/dp/B07QXZ79J2</a>
. <br>
This particular one seems to be designed to connect to an <br>
oscilloscope, which is not my situation.&nbsp; There are also sets of
<br>
automotive pins available like this: <br>
<a 
href="https://www.amazon.com/Connector-Terminal-Automotive-Electrical-Removal/dp/B0CRR3GGF1/ref=sr_1_3";>
https://www.amazon.com/Connector-Terminal-Automotive-Electrical-Removal/dp/B0CRR3GGF1/ref=sr_1_3</a>
. <br>
I suppose I could make my own wires as needed.&nbsp; So, what do you guys
<br>
use for these situations?&nbsp; Of course next time it will probably be a
<br>
different car and pins will probably be a different size and/or <br>
shape.&nbsp; I am sure I won't have every possible size and type, but I'd
<br>
like to be able to cover a lot of the possibilities.&nbsp; Have you found
<br>
something that works for you?&nbsp; Thanks.<br><br>
-Steve T.<br><br>
<br>
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