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Re: [Shop-talk] automotive connector breakout wires

To: Arvid Jedlicka <arvidj999@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] automotive connector breakout wires
From: Steven Trovato <strovato@optonline.net> mail.com>
Date: Thu, 23 May 2024 11:03:56 -0400
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Yes, but back probing isn't always easy/possible 
on some of the more weatherproof connectors and I 
don't know if I would make a good enough 
connection to apply voltage and ground to run a 
motor.  I had the connector open on my bench so I 
was looking for a kit to do "front probing" if that's a thing.

At 03:44 AM 5/23/2024, Arvid Jedlicka wrote:
>Maybe something like this ...=C2 
><https://www.harborfreight.com/back-probe-kit-22-piece-70614.html?_br_psug=
g_q=3Dprobe>https://www.harborfreight.com/back-probe-kit-22-piece-70614.htm=
l?_br_psugg_q=3Dprobe.=C2 
>
>
>On Wed, May 22, 2024, 11:59 PM Steven Trovato 
>I need access to the individual pins in automotive
>connectors.=C2  Sometimes there are other approaches like back probing
>that work.=C2  But other times I need to actually reach into the
>connector and connect to a pin or socket.=C2  Most recently I was
>working on the power running boards on my Ford Expedition.=C2  I wanted
>to apply 12 Volts to one particular pin and ground to a different pin
>to actuate the motor.=C2  Switching the two makes the motor operate in
>the other direction.=C2  That's how the running boards extend or
>retract.=C2  Fortunately, the two pins I needed were separated by an
>unused pin location and I was able to use some jumper wires with
>small alligator clips.=C2  That worked out, but if the pins had been
>adjacent I wouldn't have had enough room.=C2  I see there are some
>breakout wire sets available like
>this:
><https://www.amazon.com/HT306-Breakout-Leads-Diagnostic-Oscilliscope/dp/B0=
7QXZ79J2>https://www.amazon.com/HT306-Breakout-Leads-Diagnostic-Oscilliscop=
e/dp/B07QXZ79J2. 
>
>This particular one seems to be designed to connect to an
>oscilloscope, which is not my situation.=C2  There are also sets of
>automotive pins available like this:
><https://www.amazon.com/Connector-Terminal-Automotive-Electrical-Removal/d=
p/B0CRR3GGF1/ref=3Dsr_1_3>https://www.amazon.com/Connector-Terminal-Automot=
ive-Electrical-Removal/dp/B0CRR3GGF1/ref=3Dsr_1_3. 
>
>I suppose I could make my own wires as needed.=C2  So, what do you guys
>use for these situations?=C2  Of course next time it will probably be a
>different car and pins will probably be a different size and/or
>shape.=C2  I am sure I won't have every possible size and type, but I'd
>like to be able to cover a lot of the possibilities.=C2  Have you found
>something that works for you?=C2  Thanks.
>
>-Steve T.
>
>
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Yes, but back probing isn't always easy/possible on some of the more
weatherproof connectors and I don't know if I would make a good enough
connection to apply voltage and ground to run a motor.&nbsp; I had the
connector open on my bench so I was looking for a kit to do &quot;front
probing&quot; if that's a thing.  <br><br>
At 03:44 AM 5/23/2024, Arvid Jedlicka wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite=3D"">Maybe something like this ..=
=2E=C2
<a href=3D"https://www.harborfreight.com/back-probe-kit-22-piece-70614.html=
?_br_psugg_q=3Dprobe">
https://www.harborfreight.com/back-probe-kit-22-piece-70614.html?_br_psugg_=
q=3Dprobe</a>
=2E=C2 <br><br>
On Wed, May 22, 2024, 11:59 PM Steven Trovato
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:strovato@optonline.net";>strovato@optonline.net</a>
&gt; wrote:<br>

<dl>
<dd>I need access to the individual pins in automotive <br>

<dd>connectors.=C2&nbsp; Sometimes there are other approaches like back
probing <br>

<dd>that work.=C2&nbsp; But other times I need to actually reach into the
<br>

<dd>connector and connect to a pin or socket.=C2&nbsp; Most recently I was
<br>

<dd>working on the power running boards on my Ford Expedition.=C2&nbsp; I
wanted <br>

<dd>to apply 12 Volts to one particular pin and ground to a different pin
<br>

<dd>to actuate the motor.=C2&nbsp; Switching the two makes the motor
operate in <br>

<dd>the other direction.=C2&nbsp; That's how the running boards extend or
<br>

<dd>retract.=C2&nbsp; Fortunately, the two pins I needed were separated by
an <br>

<dd>unused pin location and I was able to use some jumper wires with
<br>

<dd>small alligator clips.=C2&nbsp; That worked out, but if the pins had
been <br>

<dd>adjacent I wouldn't have had enough room.=C2&nbsp; I see there are some=

<br>

<dd>breakout wire sets available like <br>

<dd>this: <br>

<dd>
<a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/HT306-Breakout-Leads-Diagnostic-Oscillisc=
ope/dp/B07QXZ79J2">
https://www.amazon.com/HT306-Breakout-Leads-Diagnostic-Oscilliscope/dp/B07Q=
XZ79J2</a>
=2E <br>

<dd>This particular one seems to be designed to connect to an <br>

<dd>oscilloscope, which is not my situation.=C2&nbsp; There are also sets
of <br>

<dd>automotive pins available like this: <br>

<dd>
<a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/Connector-Terminal-Automotive-Electrical-=
Removal/dp/B0CRR3GGF1/ref=3Dsr_1_3">
https://www.amazon.com/Connector-Terminal-Automotive-Electrical-Removal/dp/=
B0CRR3GGF1/ref=3Dsr_1_3</a>
=2E <br>

<dd>I suppose I could make my own wires as needed.=C2&nbsp; So, what do you=

guys <br>

<dd>use for these situations?=C2&nbsp; Of course next time it will probably=

be a <br>

<dd>different car and pins will probably be a different size and/or <br>

<dd>shape.=C2&nbsp; I am sure I won't have every possible size and type,
but I'd <br>

<dd>like to be able to cover a lot of the possibilities.=C2&nbsp; Have you
found <br>

<dd>something that works for you?=C2&nbsp; Thanks.<br><br>

<dd>-Steve T.<br><br>
<br>

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