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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Automatic driveway gates
From: Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2023 11:56:50 -0500
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> Apparently this message got bounced for some reason so I am sending it =
again just in case:

Thanks, Doug.  I did get your message and had written something about it =
in my last reply, but must have deleted it by mistake.  There is only =
about 30=E2=80=99 between the garage doors and the gate and a single =
swinging gate would create challenges parking in front of the garage, =
which is where we generally park our daily drivers.

Our intention is to have a metal gate frame - steel square tube if I =
make it myself, aluminum if I buy it - with wood slats with about 3/4=E2=80=
=9D between the slats to mimic a design feature in the front of the =
house.  Wind is definitely a concern where we are; we were in the path =
of Hurricane Sandy a few years ago, although the serious damage was =
about 60+ miles west of us.  I am assuming the gaps between the slats =
(basically 6=E2=80=9D decking boards) will be enough.  I guess that is =
just one more reason to seriously consider the slider.

Jim

> On Feb 16, 2023, at 11:07 AM, old dirtbeard <dirtbeard@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> Although I have a swinging gate and do not really have room for a =
slider, there are two structural issues that I see with swinging gates:
> The unsupported weight across the length of them. The longer the gate, =
the more weight there is at the opening and the gates will tend to sag =
over time. I actually use a rolling floor jack on the opening end and =
large c-clamps at the hinged end to "realign" the gate latch striking =
plate from time to time (every few years) as it sags out of alignment.
> Wind. If you have a bar or tube type gate, it is not a problem, but if =
you want to have an opaque gate, and your locale is prone to high-winds, =
then the winds potentially can cause problems with the gate opening or =
closing.=20
> You should not have either of these problems with a sliding gate.
>=20
> Sliders though are more prone to debris in the track, derailing, etc., =
particularly if the drive is not paved.
>=20
> On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 7:53 AM Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.com =
>> Thank you for that offer, but I don=E2=80=99t think it is worth your =
time to take the photos, at least at this early stage.  Like I said, I =
have just started researching this.
>>=20
>> The gate has three purposes: to keep the deer out (we have a ton), to =
keep my dog in, and to hide what is in my driveway.  My property is a =
thru lot, with my shop/garage in the back.  Ours is the only house on =
the street that has the garage in the back.  I try to be sensitive to =
how it looks to my neighbors, hence the current stockade fence/gate =
there.   I have a pretty ratty looking enclosed trailer for my Alpines =
and, from time to time, random car parts sitting next to it. Stockade =
fencing was there when we bought the house and we=E2=80=99re going to =
redo it to make it a little better looking but still block the view.
>>=20
>> FWIW, the driveway is currently unpaved but we plan on paving it in =
the spring.  That doesn=E2=80=99t necessarily impact a swinging gate, =
but would probably be something to think about with a slider.
>>=20
>> Jim
>>=20
>>> On Feb 16, 2023, at 9:47 AM, Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com =
>>>=20
>>> Next question I have is what is the purpose of the gate? Keep honest =
people out? Keep someone from driving through the closed gate? Keep =
livestock in/out?
>>>=20
>>> There are a lot of sliding gates around here, I=E2=80=99ll take a =
look at how much they overlap. Some are cantilevered & some have a =
v-wheel that rides on an angle iron track across the drive. Ones I =
recall seeing don=E2=80=99t overlap on the side the gate goes to, but =
there is a stationary =E2=80=9CY=E2=80=9D shaped guide that the gate =
goes into. The Y is on the gate post but could just as easily be on the =
gate.=20
>>>=20
>>> I can send you some photos if you like, it would take me a few days =
to go around & get them.=20
>>>=20
>>> Peace,
>>> Pat
>>>=20
>>> Pat Horne=20
>>> We support Habitat for Humanity
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> On Feb 16, 2023, at 8:36 AM, Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.com =
>>>=20
>>> =EF=BB=BFThanks for all of the advice, guys.  The area between the =
garage and the gate is not all that great and I think a single swinging =
gate would be more trouble than it is worth. That said, I am starting to =
think that a sliding gate might be the way to go and I have plenty of =
room on one side for the gate to slide.  But, I know nothing about =
siding gates and have some research to do.  And, fabricating one 16=E2=80=99=
 or so frame (I gather you need plenty of overlap on each end) seems a =
lot more work than two 6.5=E2=80=99 ones.  Lots to figure out, but =
fortunately I have time.   I=E2=80=99ll try to remember to update the =
list when I am done.
>>>=20
>>> Jim
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>> On Feb 13, 2023, at 10:06 PM, old dirtbeard <dirtbeard@gmail.com =
>>>>=20
>>>> Hi Jim,
>>>>=20
>>>> My gate opening also is just over 13' and I am using a single swing =
gate with one of the GTO SW4000 XLS gate openers.=20
>>>>=20
>>>> This opener is rated for up to 20' gates and 1,000 lbs. It should =
be about $1,100 if you have room for a single swing gate:
>>>> =
https://www.gatecrafters.com/product_detail_875.aspx?gclid=3DEAIaIQobChMIn=
bXKjIGU_QIVQRh9Ch1cAAq7EAQYASABEgIeJvD_BwE
>>>>=20
>>>> These all run on battery with a charger that could be from 110VAC. =
I ran 110 VAC in buried conduit to the gate (I wanted AC receptacles =
there anyway) and then plugged the charger in there, but you also could =
run the low voltage cable in the ground from the charger in the garage =
out to the gate.
>>>>=20
>>>> A solar charger also would be sufficient to keep the battery =
charged if you do not want to run cable or you do not want AC out at the =
gate. There really is no need for AC at the gate unless you want it..
>>>>=20
>>>> I also am just using the remote to open and close the gate from the =
cars, garage, house, etc. There is no reason to run control wires.
>>>>=20
>>>> I can send photos if you would like.
>>>>=20
>>>> best,
>>>>=20
>>>> doug
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 6:15 PM Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.com =
>>>>> The driveway opening is just over 13=E2=80=99, so two 6 1/2=E2=80=99=
 gates.  The gates are about 40=E2=80=99 from the garage and I plan on =
burying a section of pvc conduit from the gate to the garage to run the =
wire and put the controls in the garage.  I=E2=80=99ll probably use a =
battery backup, but our power is pretty reliable and I have a back-up =
generator wired into the main panel (manual transfer switch) so losing =
power wouldn=E2=80=99t be too big a deal.  The back is pretty shaded and =
running wire to a sunny area for solar panel wouldn=E2=80=99t be any =
easier than just running it to the garage, so I=E2=80=99ll probably skip =
that.  Weather-wise we are on Eastern Long Island and our climate =
isn=E2=80=99t too extreme, especially compared to Michigan!
>>>>>=20
>>>>> As for a keypad, whether or not I add one will depend on when I =
get this all done.  We=E2=80=99re just starting an addition to our house =
and contractors and construction vehicles need access to the back =
driveway (our house is a thru lot).  After that, it is pretty much just =
my wife and me and the main entrance to the house is in the front, so =
guests won=E2=80=99t often need access to the back.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> My main interest at this point is brand recommendations.  It is =
hard to make exact comparisons, but it looks like the basic system =
(minus back up batteries, solar panels, etc.) will run me anywhere from =
around $700 to $2000, which is a pretty wide range.  Common, readily =
available brands I=E2=80=99ve seen appear to be Mighty Mule, Ghost =
Controls, Topens.  Doug on this list recommended a GTO until that looks =
really nice, but is about $1700 for dual gates and might be overkill for =
my needs.  That said, having a trusted satisfied customer recommendation =
is worth a lot, so that remains in the consideration set.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> I=E2=80=99m still in the researching phase, so any input will be =
greatly appreciated.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Jim
>>>>>=20
>>>>> > On Feb 13, 2023, at 3:43 PM, <alfuller194@gmail.com =
>>>>> >=20
>>>>> > Hi Jim:
>>>>> >=20
>>>>> > Do you have any particular needs as far as gate configuration =
go?
>>>>> >=20
>>>>> > My step-mother has a swing gate, but the clearance to the street =
means you
>>>>> > have to [1] when entering wait on the street for it to open, =
with added risk
>>>>> > of oncoming traffic, and [2] when leaving - wait on the street =
to ensure it
>>>>> > closed.
>>>>> >=20
>>>>> > A condo complex in California had a lift-up gate, which =
constantly broke the
>>>>> > belts that held up the gate. We really didn't need a lit gate, =
as there was
>>>>> > never an snow...
>>>>> >=20
>>>>> > Places in Michigan had gates that swung or retracted, but they =
would get
>>>>> > hung up in the snow or ice in the winter...
>>>>> >=20
>>>>> > If you are in a place where the electric power is unreliable, =
you might want
>>>>> > to consider solar power and/or backup.  Do you need or want to =
integrate a
>>>>> > keypad into the controls? Same for an intercom?
>>>>> >=20
>>>>> > I'm sure there are more considerations, but those are what come =
immediately
>>>>> > to mind.
>>>>> >=20
>>>>> > ----------------
>>>>> > All the best,
>>>>> >=20
>>>>> > Al Fuller
>>>>> >=20
>>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>>> > From: Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net =
>>>>> > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2023 11:30 AM
>>>>> > To: Shop Talk <shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net =
>>>>> > Subject: [Shop-talk] Automatic driveway gates
>>>>> >=20
>>>>> > Does anyone have any experience installing automatic driveway =
gate openers?
>>>>> > It looks pretty straight-forward, but any advice and/or brand
>>>>> > recommendations would be greatly appreciated.  I will be =
installing a dual
>>>>> > gate opener for the driveway to my shop.
>>>>> >=20
>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>> > Jim
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>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> --=20
>>>> Best,
>>>>=20
>>>> Doug
>>>=20
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> Doug


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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size: small;"><div class=3D"gmail_default"><font =
color=3D"#0433ff">Apparently this message got bounced for some reason so =
I am sending it again just in =
case:</font></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thanks, =
Doug. &nbsp;I did get your message and had written something about it in =
my last reply, but must have deleted it by mistake. &nbsp;There is only =
about 30=E2=80=99 between the garage doors and the gate and a single =
swinging gate would create challenges parking in front of the garage, =
which is where we generally park our daily =
drivers.</div><div><br></div><div>Our intention is to have a metal gate =
frame - steel square tube if I make it myself, aluminum if I buy it - =
with wood slats with about 3/4=E2=80=9D between the slats to mimic a =
design feature in the front of the house. &nbsp;Wind is definitely a =
concern where we are; we were in the path of Hurricane Sandy a few years =
ago, although the serious damage was about 60+ miles west of us. &nbsp;I =
am assuming the gaps between the slats (basically 6=E2=80=9D decking =
boards) will be enough. &nbsp;I guess that is just one more reason to =
seriously consider the =
slider.</div><div><br></div><div>Jim</div><div><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div>On Feb 16, 2023, at 11:07 AM, old dirtbeard =
&lt;dirtbeard@gmail.com&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Although I have a =
swinging gate and do not really have room for a slider, there are two =
structural issues that I see with swinging gates:</div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><ol><li>The =
unsupported weight across the length of them. The longer the gate, the =
more weight there is at the opening and the gates will tend to sag over =
time. I actually use a rolling floor jack on the opening end and large =
c-clamps at the hinged end to "realign" the gate latch striking plate =
from time to time (every few years) as it sags out of =
alignment.</li><li>Wind. If you have a bar or tube type gate, it is not =
a problem, but if you want to have an opaque gate, and your locale is =
prone to high-winds, then the winds potentially can cause problems with =
the gate opening or closing.&nbsp;</li></ol><div>You should not have =
either of these problems with a sliding =
gate.</div><div><br></div><div>Sliders though are more prone to debris =
in the track, derailing, etc.,&nbsp;particularly&nbsp;if the drive is =
not paved.</div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 7:53 AM Jim =
Stone &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:1789alpine@gmail.com";>1789alpine@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Thank you for that offer, but I =
don=E2=80=99t think it is worth your time to take the photos, at least =
at this early stage.&nbsp; Like I said, I have just started researching =
this.<div><br></div><div>The gate has three purposes: to keep the deer =
out (we have a ton), to keep my dog in, and to hide what is in my =
driveway.&nbsp; My property is a thru lot, with my shop/garage in the =
back.&nbsp; Ours is the only house on the street that has the garage in =
the back.&nbsp; I try to be sensitive to how it looks to my neighbors, =
hence the current stockade fence/gate there. &nbsp; I have a pretty =
ratty looking enclosed trailer for my Alpines and, from time to time, =
random car parts sitting next to it. Stockade fencing was there when we =
bought the house and we=E2=80=99re going to redo it to make it a little =
better looking but still block the =
view.</div><div><div><br></div><div>FWIW, the driveway is currently =
unpaved but we plan on paving it in the spring.&nbsp; That doesn=E2=80=99t=
 necessarily impact a swinging gate, but would probably be something to =
think about with a =
slider.</div><div><br></div><div>Jim<br><div><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div>On Feb 16, 2023, at 9:47 AM, Pat Horne &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:patintexas@icloud.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">patintexas@icloud.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br><div><span =
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-varia=
nt-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text=
-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-d=
ecoration:none;float:none;display:inline">Next question I have is what =
is the purpose of the gate? Keep honest people out? Keep someone from =
driving through the closed gate? Keep livestock in/out?</span><div =
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-varia=
nt-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text=
-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-d=
ecoration:none"><br></div><div =
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-varia=
nt-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text=
-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-d=
ecoration:none">There are a lot of sliding gates around here, I=E2=80=99ll=
 take a look at how much they overlap. Some are cantilevered &amp; some =
have a v-wheel that rides on an angle iron track across the drive. Ones =
I recall seeing don=E2=80=99t overlap on the side the gate goes to, but =
there is a stationary =E2=80=9CY=E2=80=9D shaped guide that the gate =
goes into. The Y is on the gate post but could just as easily be on the =
gate.&nbsp;</div><div =
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-varia=
nt-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text=
-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-d=
ecoration:none"><br></div><div =
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-varia=
nt-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text=
-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-d=
ecoration:none">I can send you some photos if you like, it would take me =
a few days to go around &amp; get them.&nbsp;</div><div =
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-varia=
nt-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text=
-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-d=
ecoration:none"><br></div><div =
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-varia=
nt-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text=
-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-d=
ecoration:none">Peace,</div><div =
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-varia=
nt-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text=
-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-d=
ecoration:none">Pat<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne&nbsp;<div>We =
support Habitat for Humanity</div><div><br></div></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Feb 16, 2023, at 8:36 AM, Jim Stone &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:1789alpine@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">1789alpine@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BFThanks for all of the advice, guys.&nbsp; The area =
between the garage and the gate is not all that great and I think a =
single swinging gate would be more trouble than it is worth. That said, =
I am starting to think that a sliding gate might be the way to go and I =
have plenty of room on one side for the gate to slide.&nbsp; But, I know =
nothing about siding gates and have some research to do.&nbsp; And, =
fabricating one 16=E2=80=99 or so frame (I gather you need plenty of =
overlap on each end) seems a lot more work than two 6.5=E2=80=99 =
ones.&nbsp; Lots to figure out, but fortunately I have time. &nbsp; =
I=E2=80=99ll try to remember to update the list when I am =
done.<div><br></div><div>Jim</div><div><br><div><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div>On Feb 13, 2023, at 10:06 PM, old dirtbeard &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:dirtbeard@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">dirtbeard@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><div><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Hi =
Jim,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:small">My gate opening also is just over 13' and I am =
using a single swing gate with one of the GTO SW4000 XLS gate =
openers.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:small">This opener is rated for up to 20' gates and =
1,000 lbs. It should be about $1,100 if you have room for a single swing =
gate:</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><a =
href=3D"https://www.gatecrafters.com/product_detail_875.aspx?gclid=3DEAIaI=
QobChMInbXKjIGU_QIVQRh9Ch1cAAq7EAQYASABEgIeJvD_BwE" =
target=3D"_blank">https://www.gatecrafters.com/product_detail_875.aspx?gcl=
id=3DEAIaIQobChMInbXKjIGU_QIVQRh9Ch1cAAq7EAQYASABEgIeJvD_BwE</a></div><div=
 class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">These all run on =
battery with a charger that could be from 110VAC. I ran 110 VAC in =
buried conduit to the gate (I wanted AC receptacles there anyway) and =
then plugged the charger in there, but you also could run the low =
voltage cable in the ground from the charger in the garage out to the =
gate.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:small">A solar charger also would be sufficient to =
keep the battery charged if you do not want to run cable or you do not =
want&nbsp;AC out at the gate. There really is no need for AC at the gate =
unless you want it..</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:small">I also am just using the remote to open and =
close the gate from the cars, garage, house, etc. There is no reason to =
run control wires.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:small">I can send photos if you would like.</div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">best,</div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">doug</div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div></div><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb =
13, 2023 at 6:15 PM Jim Stone &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:1789alpine@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">1789alpine@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">The driveway opening is just over =
13=E2=80=99, so two 6 1/2=E2=80=99 gates.&nbsp; The gates are about =
40=E2=80=99 from the garage and I plan on burying a section of pvc =
conduit from the gate to the garage to run the wire and put the controls =
in the garage.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99ll probably use a battery backup, but our =
power is pretty reliable and I have a back-up generator wired into the =
main panel (manual transfer switch) so losing power wouldn=E2=80=99t be =
too big a deal.&nbsp; The back is pretty shaded and running wire to a =
sunny area for solar panel wouldn=E2=80=99t be any easier than just =
running it to the garage, so I=E2=80=99ll probably skip that.&nbsp; =
Weather-wise we are on Eastern Long Island and our climate isn=E2=80=99t =
too extreme, especially compared to Michigan!<br><br>As for a keypad, =
whether or not I add one will depend on when I get this all done.&nbsp; =
We=E2=80=99re just starting an addition to our house and contractors and =
construction vehicles need access to the back driveway (our house is a =
thru lot).&nbsp; After that, it is pretty much just my wife and me and =
the main entrance to the house is in the front, so guests won=E2=80=99t =
often need access to the back.<br><br>My main interest at this point is =
brand recommendations.&nbsp; It is hard to make exact comparisons, but =
it looks like the basic system (minus back up batteries, solar panels, =
etc.) will run me anywhere from around $700 to $2000, which is a pretty =
wide range.&nbsp; Common, readily available brands I=E2=80=99ve seen =
appear to be Mighty Mule, Ghost Controls, Topens.&nbsp; Doug on this =
list recommended a GTO until that looks really nice, but is about $1700 =
for dual gates and might be overkill for my needs.&nbsp; That said, =
having a trusted satisfied customer recommendation is worth a lot, so =
that remains in the consideration set.<br><br>I=E2=80=99m still in the =
researching phase, so any input will be greatly =
appreciated.<br><br>Jim<br><br>&gt; On Feb 13, 2023, at 3:43 PM, &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:alfuller194@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">alfuller194@gmail.com</a>&gt; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:alfuller194@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">alfuller194@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br>&gt;<span>&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; Hi =
Jim:<br>&gt;<span>&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; Do you have any particular needs =
as far as gate configuration go?<br>&gt;<span>&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; My =
step-mother has a swing gate, but the clearance to the street means =
you<br>&gt; have to [1] when entering wait on the street for it to open, =
with added risk<br>&gt; of oncoming traffic, and [2] when leaving - wait =
on the street to ensure it<br>&gt; =
closed.<br>&gt;<span>&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; A condo complex in California =
had a lift-up gate, which constantly broke the<br>&gt; belts that held =
up the gate. We really didn't need a lit gate, as there was<br>&gt; =
never an snow...<br>&gt;<span>&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; Places in Michigan =
had gates that swung or retracted, but they would get<br>&gt; hung up in =
the snow or ice in the winter...<br>&gt;<span>&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; If =
you are in a place where the electric power is unreliable, you might =
want<br>&gt; to consider solar power and/or backup.&nbsp; Do you need or =
want to integrate a<br>&gt; keypad into the controls? Same for an =
intercom?<br>&gt;<span>&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; I'm sure there are more =
considerations, but those are what come immediately<br>&gt; to =
mind.<br>&gt;<span>&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; ----------------<br>&gt; All =
the best,<br>&gt;<span>&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; Al =
Fuller<br>&gt;<span>&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; -----Original =
Message-----<br>&gt; From: Shop-talk &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; On Behalf Of =
Jim Stone<br>&gt; Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2023 11:30 AM<br>&gt; To: =
Shop Talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net"; =
target=3D"_blank">shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net</a>&gt;<br>&gt; Subject: =
[Shop-talk] Automatic driveway gates<br>&gt;<span>&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; =
Does anyone have any experience installing automatic driveway gate =
openers?<br>&gt; It looks pretty straight-forward, but any advice and/or =
brand<br>&gt; recommendations would be greatly appreciated.&nbsp; I will =
be installing a dual<br>&gt; gate opener for the driveway to my =
shop.<br>&gt;<span>&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; Thanks,<br>&gt; Jim<br>&gt; =
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