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That=E2=80=99s what I was suggesting. Temperature was also raised as a =
contributing factor. Exposure to ozone is another I have heard. But how =
long, is the question?
I wasn=E2=80=99t ready to give up on mine yet. But YMMV. Poor Jay Leno =
has hundreds of cars, all of which are valuable, and which he likes to =
drive regularly. So keeping that stable shod has to be a massive ongoing =
expense (especially considering that many of them have unique or =
uncommon tire sizes).
--
Max Heim
'66 MGB
> On Jul 24, 2023, at 12:33 PM, <mghirsch@netzero.net> =
<mghirsch@netzero.net> wrote:
>=20
> Sunlight deteriorates tires. If they are kept out of sunlight, =
shouldn=E2=80=99t they have a longer life?
> =20
> Maynard
> =20
> From: Mgs <mgs-bounces@autox.team.net =
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2023 11:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [Mgs] FYI
> =20
> It just occurred to me that I bought my current tires for my previous =
car, which left the premises in 2018, and was in a state of disassembly =
for 3 or 4 years before that. So they might date back to 2014 or even =
2012. Still at least 70% tread left and the sidewalls look fine with no =
cracking. They have always been parked out of the sun under a carport =
with a car cover. I am not too concerned about sudden failure since they =
contain inner tubes.
> =20
> I did once have an abrupt deflation incident with a previous set due =
to highway debris, but didn=E2=80=99t have any trouble keeping the car =
under control, and I changed to the spare on the roadside.
> =20
> --
> Max Heim
> '66 MGB=20
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>> On Jul 24, 2023, at 12:16 AM, PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73@virginmedia.com =
>> =20
>> I'm amazed Leno as a car buff didn't already know that.
>> Many 'authorities' advise that a tyre should be examined closely at 5 =
years and replaced when it reaches 10 years old irrespective of wear. =
This tyre was 12 years old but had only done 18k. Certainly not mileage =
expired and if just 2 years over the 'recommended' change point is =
enough to cause this then I suggest it was either faulty or they are =
just not made to the standards they used to be. Falken Sincera.
>> http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/tyre2.htm =
<http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/tyre2.htm>
>> On 23/07/2023 17:42, dave northrup wrote:
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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">That=E2=80=99s what I was suggesting. Temperature was also =
raised as a contributing factor. Exposure to ozone is another I have =
heard. But how long, is the question?</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I wasn=E2=80=99t ready to give up on =
mine yet. But YMMV. Poor Jay Leno has hundreds of cars, all of which are =
valuable, and which he likes to drive regularly. So keeping that stable =
shod has to be a massive ongoing expense (especially considering that =
many of them have unique or uncommon tire sizes).</div><br class=3D""><div=
class=3D"">
--<br class=3D"">Max Heim<br class=3D"">'66 MGB
</div>
<div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Jul 24, 2023, at 12:33 PM, <<a =
href=3D"mailto:mghirsch@netzero.net"; =
class=3D"">mghirsch@netzero.net</a>> <<a =
href=3D"mailto:mghirsch@netzero.net"; =
class=3D"">mghirsch@netzero.net</a>> wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
charset=3D"UTF-8" class=3D""><div class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: =
WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; =
font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none;"><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri" class=3D""><span=
style=3D"font-size: 11pt;" class=3D"">Sunlight deteriorates tires.<span =
class=3D""> <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>If they are kept out =
of sunlight, shouldn=E2=80=99t they have a longer life?<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><font =
size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""> </o:p></span></font></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri" class=3D""><span=
style=3D"font-size: 11pt;" class=3D"">Maynard<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><font =
size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""> </o:p></span></font></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"border-style: solid none none; =
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font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><b class=3D""><font =
size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-weight: bold;" class=3D"">From:</span></font></b><span =
class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Mgs <<a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net"; style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">mgs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-weight: bold;" class=3D"">On Behalf Of<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b>Max Heim<br =
class=3D""><b class=3D""><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;" =
class=3D"">Sent:</span></b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, July 24, 2023 11:24 =
AM<br class=3D""><b class=3D""><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;" =
class=3D"">To:</span></b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>mglist <<a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">mgs@autox.team.net</a>><br =
class=3D""><b class=3D""><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;" =
class=3D"">Subject:</span></b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Mgs] FYI<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><font =
size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""> </o:p></span></font></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri" class=3D""><span=
style=3D"font-size: 11pt;" class=3D"">It just occurred to me that I =
bought my current tires for my previous car, which left the premises in =
2018, and was in a state of disassembly for 3 or 4 years before that. So =
they might date back to 2014 or even 2012. Still at least 70% tread left =
and the sidewalls look fine with no cracking. They have always been =
parked out of the sun under a carport with a car cover. I am not too =
concerned about sudden failure since they contain inner tubes.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></font></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:=
0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><font=
size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""> </o:p></span></font></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt;" class=3D"">I did once have =
an abrupt deflation incident with a previous set due to highway debris, =
but didn=E2=80=99t have any trouble keeping the car under control, and I =
changed to the spare on the roadside.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></font></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:=
0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><font=
size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""> </o:p></span></font></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt;" class=3D"">--<br =
class=3D"">Max Heim<br class=3D"">'66 MGB<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></font></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri" class=3D""><span=
style=3D"font-size: 11pt;" class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></font></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: =
5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=3D"" type=3D"cite"><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri" class=3D""><span=
style=3D"font-size: 11pt;" class=3D"">On Jul 24, 2023, at 12:16 AM, =
PaulHunt73 <<a href=3D"mailto:paulhunt73@virginmedia.com"; =
style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">paulhunt73@virginmedia.com</a>> wrote:<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></font></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><font =
size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""> </o:p></span></font></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant-caps: =
normal; text-align: start; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-spacing: =
0px;" class=3D""><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Verdana" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">I'm amazed Leno as a car buff didn't already know that.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; caret-color: rgb(0, =
0, 0); font-variant-caps: normal; text-align: start; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-spacing: 0px;" class=3D""><font =
size=3D"2" face=3D"Verdana" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Many 'authorities' advise =
that a tyre should be examined closely at 5 years and replaced when it =
reaches 10 years old irrespective of wear. This tyre was 12 years =
old but had only done 18k. Certainly not mileage expired and if =
just 2 years over the 'recommended' change point is enough to cause this =
then I suggest it was either faulty or they are just not made to the =
standards they used to be. Falken Sincera.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; caret-color: rgb(0, =
0, 0); font-variant-caps: normal; text-align: start; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-spacing: 0px;" class=3D""><font =
size=3D"2" face=3D"Verdana" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class=3D""><a =
href=3D"http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/tyre2.htm"; style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D""><font color=3D"#0563c1" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"color: rgb(5, 99, 193);" =
class=3D"">http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/tyre2.htm</span></font></a><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></font></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:=
0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><font=
size=3D"2" face=3D"Verdana" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class=3D"">On 23/07/2023 17:42, dave =
northrup wrote:<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></font></div></div><blockquote=
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res/?fbclid=3DIwAR0aJAQN-C30NTKlLn1vLPUQMbSRidtpY6T_3TcvU9ERlvIxC21zB5vsVb=
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