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To: Max Heim <mvheim@sonic.net>
Subject: Re: [Mgs] FYI
From: Robert's New iPad <mgbobh@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2023 13:27:49 -0400
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        I suggest that there is a temperature component to tire life.  Tire=
s used as little as Max=E2=80=99s have been would, it seems to me, be OK at p=
resent age if they had been stored in a refrigerator. =20
        My observation of tires on MGB and truck when I moved to CT from FL=
 is that the tires did not appear to age as quickly in CT.   I did=E2=80=94t=
ires didn=E2=80=99t.   When replaced at 12 years, though, the difference in c=
ornering grip was notable.=20
Bob


> On Jul 24, 2023, at 12:23 PM, Max Heim <mvheim@sonic.net> wrote:
>=20
> It just occurred to me that I bought my current tires for my previous car,=
 which left the premises in 2018, and was in a state of disassembly for 3 or=
 4 years before that. So they might date back to 2014 or even 2012. Still at=
 least 70% tread left and the sidewalls look fine with no cracking. They hav=
e always been parked out of the sun under a carport with a car cover. I am n=
ot too concerned about sudden failure since they contain inner tubes.
>=20
> I did once have an abrupt deflation incident with a previous set due to hi=
ghway debris, but didn=E2=80=99t have any trouble keeping the car under cont=
rol, and I changed to the spare on the roadside.
>=20
> --
> Max Heim
> '66 MGB
>=20
>> On Jul 24, 2023, at 12:16 AM, PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73@virginmedia.com> wro=
te:
>>=20
>> I'm amazed Leno as a car buff didn't already know that.
>>=20
>> Many 'authorities' advise that a tyre should be examined closely at 5 yea=
rs and replaced when it reaches 10 years old irrespective of wear.  This tyr=
e was 12 years old but had only done 18k.  Certainly not mileage expired and=
 if just 2 years over the 'recommended' change point is enough to cause this=
 then I suggest it was either faulty or they are just not made to the standa=
rds they used to be.  Falken Sincera.
>>=20
>> http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/tyre2.htm
>>=20
>>> On 23/07/2023 17:42, dave northrup wrote:
>>> Old tires
>>> =20
>>> https://www.hagerty.com/media/opinion/jay-leno-needs-about-1200-tires/?f=
bclid=3DIwAR0aJAQN-C30NTKlLn1vLPUQMbSRidtpY6T_3TcvU9ERlvIxC21zB5vsVbQ
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><sp=
an class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">  </span>I suggest th=
at there is a temperature component to tire life. &nbsp;Tires used as little=
 as Max=E2=80=99s have been would, it seems to me, be OK at present age if t=
hey had been stored in a refrigerator. &nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span cl=
ass=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">       </span>My observati=
on of tires on MGB and truck when I moved to CT from FL is that the tires di=
d not appear to age as quickly in CT. &nbsp; I did=E2=80=94tires didn=E2=80=99=
t. &nbsp; When replaced at 12 years, though, the difference in cornering gri=
p was notable.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jul 24, 2023, at 12:23 PM, Max Heim &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:mvheim@sonic.net";>mvheim@sonic.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" cont=
ent=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">It just occurred to me that I bought my c=
urrent tires for my previous car, which left the premises in 2018, and was i=
n a state of disassembly for 3 or 4 years before that. So they might date ba=
ck to 2014 or even 2012. Still at least 70% tread left and the sidewalls loo=
k fine with no cracking. They have always been parked out of the sun under a=
 carport with a car cover. I am not too concerned about sudden failure since=
 they contain inner tubes.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D=
"">I did once have an abrupt deflation incident with a previous set due to h=
ighway debris, but didn=E2=80=99t have any trouble keeping the car under con=
trol, and I changed to the spare on the roadside.<br class=3D""><div class=3D=
""><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
--<br class=3D"">Max Heim<br class=3D"">'66 MGB

</div>

<div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On J=
ul 24, 2023, at 12:16 AM, PaulHunt73 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:paulhunt73@virgin=
media.com" class=3D"">paulhunt73@virginmedia.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br cla=
ss=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta charset=3D"UTF-8" cla=
ss=3D""><p style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-si=
ze: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; l=
etter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: n=
one; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;=
 text-decoration: none;" class=3D"">I'm amazed Leno as a car buff didn't alr=
eady know that.<br class=3D""></p><p style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); fon=
t-family: Verdana; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: n=
ormal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-ind=
ent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -web=
kit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D"">Many 'authori=
ties' advise that a tyre should be examined closely at 5 years and replaced w=
hen it reaches 10 years old irrespective of wear.&nbsp; This tyre was 12 yea=
rs old but had only done 18k.&nbsp; Certainly not mileage expired and if jus=
t 2 years over the 'recommended' change point is enough to cause this then I=
 suggest it was either faulty or they are just not made to the standards the=
y used to be.&nbsp; Falken Sincera.<br class=3D""></p><p style=3D"caret-colo=
r: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; f=
ont-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-ali=
gn: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word=
-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=
=3D""><a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk=
/tyre2.htm" style=3D"color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;">ht=
tp://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/tyre2.htm</a><br class=3D""></p><div class=3D"moz-=
cite-prefix" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-=
size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400;=
 letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform=
: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0=
px; text-decoration: none;">On 23/07/2023 17:42, dave northrup wrote:<br cla=
ss=3D""></div><blockquote type=3D"cite" cite=3D"mid:bf1a27d918404c81aee2cf5f=
730b15b5@ranteer.com" style=3D"font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13px; font-s=
tyle: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: n=
ormal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: n=
one; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size=
-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=
=3D""><div class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1;"><div style=3D=
"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""=
>Old tires<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 1=
1pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o=
:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, s=
ans-serif;" class=3D""><a href=3D"https://www.hagerty.com/media/opinion/jay-=
leno-needs-about-1200-tires/?fbclid=3DIwAR0aJAQN-C30NTKlLn1vLPUQMbSRidtpY6T_=
3TcvU9ERlvIxC21zB5vsVbQ" moz-do-not-send=3D"true" class=3D"moz-txt-link-free=
text" style=3D"color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;">https://=
www.hagerty.com/media/opinion/jay-leno-needs-about-1200-tires/?fbclid=3DIwAR=
0aJAQN-C30NTKlLn1vLPUQMbSRidtpY6T_3TcvU9ERlvIxC21zB5vsVbQ</a><o:p class=3D""=
></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibr=
i, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"m=
argin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><=
o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><br class=3D""><fieldset class=3D"moz=
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