Re: [Mgs] Bad Fuel Question

[i erbs via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>]

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My car ran rough, backfired and coughed under load, but did ok at low
speeds. Replaced the condenser , ran fine for a few hundred miles, then
failed again.  Both were new Lucas units. Put in an old stock one, car ran
fine until I replace with HD condenser.

On Tue, Jul 23, 2019, 9:45 AM Max Heim via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:

> Rough running, which was the stated symptom, as opposed to =E2=80=9Cnot r=
unning=E2=80=9D.
>
> --
> Max Heim
> '66 MGB
>
> On Jul 23, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Charley Robinson <Charley38@twc.com> wrote:
>
> What do you mean by "intermediate state"?
>
> CR
>
> On 7/23/2019 11:03 AM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote:
>
> I understand how it could make the car inoperable. I don=E2=80=99t see an
> explanation for an intermediate state.
>
> --
> Max Heim
> mvheim@sonic.net
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> On Jul 23, 2019, at 6:53 AM, Charley Robinson <Charley38@twc.com> wrote:
>
> Not true, Max.  When the points open, the condenser discharges through th=
e
> coil in order to perpetuate the spark.  Without the condenser the engine
> may not even start.  Try it some time. :-)
>
> CR
>
> On 7/22/2019 1:18 PM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote:
>
> How do bad condensers cause rough running? All they do is prevent the
> points from burning. Oh, you are saying the points are burnt.
>
> --
> Max Heim
> '66 MGB
>
>
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> On Jul 22, 2019, at 11:10 AM, i erbs via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> could also be a bad a condenser. Could coincidental, not causational. How
> old is the condenser? Even if newish, there are lots of crappy new Lucas
> parts out there. I had three bad ones with similar results, until replace=
d
> with  a Distributor Doctor HD condenser.
> Ira Erbs
> Portland,OR
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> On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 10:36 AM David Breneman via Mgs <
> mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> I've never encountered a "bad fuel" problem before, so I'm looking
>> for some confirmation (or not).  The local Mom-without-Pop store put
>> in new pumps, and one of the things they're offering now is 92 octane (U=
S)
>> alcohol-free gas.  I had about a quarter tank in my MGA (w/MGB high
>> compression engine) so I went to fill up.  The pump with the alcohol-
>> free gas was out of order!  So I put in three gallons of regular 92
>> octane, and about 1/4 mile from the station started experiencing a lot
>> of misfiring, mostly when accelerating in 3rd and 4th.  I continued
>> driving like this for about 20 miles to see if it would clear up and it
>> never did.  I can't imagine it's anything but the fuel, but I've never
>> encountered "bad fuel" situation like this in 44 years of driving.
>>
>> The fact that it started about 1/4 mile after leaving the station seems
>> like pretty good evidence.  Any other possibilities?  Is there any optio=
n
>> other than to just burn through this half tank of gas?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> David Breneman  david_breneman@yahoo.com
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<div dir=3D"auto">My car ran rough, backfired and coughed under load, but d=
id ok at low speeds. Replaced the condenser , ran fine for a few hundred mi=
les, then failed again.=C2=A0 Both were new Lucas units. Put in an old stoc=
k one, car ran fine until I replace with HD condenser.=C2=A0</div><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 23,=
 2019, 9:45 AM Max Heim via Mgs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net";>m=
gs@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
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iv style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">Rough running, which was the stated sympt=
om, as opposed to =E2=80=9Cnot running=E2=80=9D.<div><br><div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-=
indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wra=
p:break-word"><div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-ali=
gn:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacin=
g:0px;word-wrap:break-word"><div style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:13px">--</di=
v><div style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:13px;min-height:16px">Max Heim</div><d=
iv style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:13px">&#39;66 MGB</div></div></div>
</div>

<br><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Jul 23, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Charle=
y Robinson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Charley38@twc.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"noreferrer">Charley38@twc.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D"m_512557=
0201452341329Apple-interchange-newline"><div>
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    What do you mean by &quot;intermediate state&quot;?<br>
    <br>
    CR<br>
    <br>
    <div class=3D"m_5125570201452341329moz-cite-prefix">On 7/23/2019 11:03 =
AM, Max Heim via Mgs
      wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
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      I understand how it could make the car inoperable. I don=E2=80=99t se=
e an
      explanation for an intermediate state.
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          <div>--</div>
          <div>Max Heim</div>
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            <div>On Jul 23, 2019, at 6:53 AM, Charley Robinson
              &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Charley38@twc.com"; target=3D"_blank" re=
l=3D"noreferrer">Charley38@twc.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
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            <div>
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              <div text=3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"> Not true,
                Max.=C2=A0 When the points open, the condenser discharges
                through the coil in order to perpetuate the spark.=C2=A0
                Without the condenser the engine may not even start.=C2=A0
                Try it some time. <span class=3D"m_5125570201452341329moz-s=
miley-s1"><span>:-)</span></span><br>
                <br>
                CR<br>
                <br>
                <div class=3D"m_5125570201452341329moz-cite-prefix">On 7/22=
/2019 1:18 PM, Max
                  Heim via Mgs wrote:<br>
                </div>
                <blockquote type=3D"cite">
                 =20
                  How do bad condensers cause rough running? All they do
                  is prevent the points from burning. Oh, you are saying
                  the points are burnt.
                  <div><br>
                    <div>
                      <div style=3D"letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;=
text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;wor=
d-wrap:break-word">
                        <div style=3D"letter-spacing:normal;text-align:star=
t;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;w=
ord-wrap:break-word">
                          <div style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:13px">--</div>
                          <div style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:13px;min-heigh=
t:16px">Max Heim</div>
                          <div style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:13px">&#39;66 =
MGB</div>
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                      <blockquote type=3D"cite">
                        <div>On Jul 22, 2019, at 11:10 AM, i
                          erbs via Mgs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team=
.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">mgs@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
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etter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;w=
hite-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">could also be a bad a condenser.
                            Could coincidental, not causational. How old
                            is the condenser? Even if newish, there are
                            lots of crappy new Lucas parts out there. I
                            had three bad ones with similar results,
                            until replaced with=C2=A0 a Distributor Doctor =
HD
                            condenser.<br clear=3D"all">
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                                                          Erbs
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                            <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon,
                              Jul 22, 2019 at 10:36 AM David Breneman
                              via Mgs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.=
net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">mgs@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
                              wrote:<br>
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                            <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-l=
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                                  <div>
                                    <div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;ve never
                                      encountered a &quot;bad fuel&quot; pr=
oblem
                                      before, so I&#39;m looking</div>
                                    <div dir=3D"ltr">for some
                                      confirmation (or not).=C2=A0 The loca=
l
                                      Mom-without-Pop store put</div>
                                    <div dir=3D"ltr">in new
                                      pumps, and one of the things
                                      they&#39;re offering now is 92 octane
                                      (US)<br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div dir=3D"ltr">alcohol-free
                                      gas.=C2=A0 I had about a quarter tank
                                      in my MGA (w/MGB high</div>
                                    <div dir=3D"ltr">compression
                                      engine) so I went to fill up.=C2=A0 T=
he
                                      pump with the alcohol-</div>
                                    <div dir=3D"ltr">free gas was
                                      out of order!=C2=A0 So I put in three
                                      gallons of regular 92<span class=3D"m=
_5125570201452341329Apple-converted-space">=C2=A0</span><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div dir=3D"ltr">octane, and
                                      about 1/4 mile from the station
                                      started experiencing a lot</div>
                                    <div dir=3D"ltr">of
                                      misfiring, mostly when
                                      accelerating in 3rd and 4th.=C2=A0 I
                                      continued</div>
                                    <div dir=3D"ltr"><span><span class=3D"m=
_5125570201452341329gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st">driving
                                          like this for about 20 miles
                                          to see if it would clear up
                                          and it</span></span></div>
                                    <div dir=3D"ltr"><span><span class=3D"m=
_5125570201452341329gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st">never
                                          did.=C2=A0 I can&#39;t imagine it=
&#39;s
                                          anything but the fuel, but
                                          I&#39;ve never</span></span></div=
>
                                    <div dir=3D"ltr"><span><span class=3D"m=
_5125570201452341329gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st">encountered
                                          &quot;bad fuel&quot; situation li=
ke this
                                          in 44 years of driving.</span></s=
pan></div>
                                    <div dir=3D"ltr"><span><span class=3D"m=
_5125570201452341329gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st"><br>
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                                    <div dir=3D"ltr"><span><span class=3D"m=
_5125570201452341329gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st">The
                                          fact that it started about 1/4
                                          mile after leaving the station
                                          seems</span></span></div>
                                    <div dir=3D"ltr"><span><span class=3D"m=
_5125570201452341329gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st">like
                                          pretty good evidence.=C2=A0 Any
                                          other possibilities?=C2=A0 Is the=
re
                                          any option</span></span></div>
                                    <div dir=3D"ltr"><span><span class=3D"m=
_5125570201452341329gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st">other
                                          than to just burn through this
                                          half tank of gas?</span></span></=
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