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What do you mean by "intermediate state"?
CR
On 7/23/2019 11:03 AM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote:
> I understand how it could make the car inoperable. I donâ??t see an
> explanation for an intermediate state.
>
> --
> Max Heim
>
>
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>> On Jul 23, 2019, at 6:53 AM, Charley Robinson <Charley38@twc.com
>>
>> Not true, Max. When the points open, the condenser discharges
>> through the coil in order to perpetuate the spark. Without the
>> condenser the engine may not even start. Try it some time. :-)
>>
>> CR
>>
>> On 7/22/2019 1:18 PM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote:
>>> How do bad condensers cause rough running? All they do is prevent
>>> the points from burning. Oh, you are saying the points are burnt.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Max Heim
>>> '66 MGB
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jul 22, 2019, at 11:10 AM, i erbs via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net
>>>>
>>>> could also be a bad a condenser. Could coincidental, not
>>>> causational. How old is the condenser? Even if newish, there are
>>>> lots of crappy new Lucas parts out there. I had three bad ones with
>>>> similar results, until replaced with a Distributor Doctor HD
>>>> condenser.
>>>> Ira Erbs
>>>> Portland,OR
>>>> Â Â Â _______ Â Â _______
>>>> (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
>>>> (_________________________)
>>>> Â Â Â Â BT7 engine and disk brakes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1967 MGB MG
>>>>
>>>> A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
>>>> Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 10:36 AM David Breneman via Mgs
>>>>
>>>> I've never encountered a "bad fuel" problem before, so I'm looking
>>>> for some confirmation (or not). The local Mom-without-Pop
>>>> store put
>>>> in new pumps, and one of the things they're offering now is 92
>>>> octane (US)
>>>> alcohol-free gas. I had about a quarter tank in my MGA (w/MGB high
>>>> compression engine) so I went to fill up. The pump with the
>>>> alcohol-
>>>> free gas was out of order! So I put in three gallons of regular 92
>>>> octane, and about 1/4 mile from the station started
>>>> experiencing a lot
>>>> of misfiring, mostly when accelerating in 3rd and 4th. I continued
>>>> driving like this for about 20 miles to see if it would clear
>>>> up and it
>>>> never did. I can't imagine it's anything but the fuel, but
>>>> I've never
>>>> encountered "bad fuel" situation like this in 44 years of driving.
>>>>
>>>> The fact that it started about 1/4 mile after leaving the
>>>> station seems
>>>> like pretty good evidence. Any other possibilities? Is there
>>>> any option
>>>> other than to just burn through this half tank of gas?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> David Brenemandavid_breneman@yahoo.com
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What do you mean by "intermediate state"?<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/23/2019 11:03 AM, Max Heim via Mgs
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I understand how it could make the car inoperable. I donâ??t see an
explanation for an intermediate state.
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<div class="">On Jul 23, 2019, at 6:53 AM, Charley Robinson
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""> Not true,
Max. When the points open, the condenser discharges
through the coil in order to perpetuate the spark.Â
Without the condenser the engine may not even start.Â
Try it some time. <span class="moz-smiley-s1"><span
class="">:-)</span></span><br class="">
<br class="">
CR<br class="">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/22/2019 1:18 PM, Max
Heim via Mgs wrote:<br class="">
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cite="mid:1212B08C-5593-45F0-9FF8-7DC9B6E1398F@sonic.net"
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How do bad condensers cause rough running? All they do
is prevent the points from burning. Oh, you are saying
the points are burnt.
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<div class="">On Jul 22, 2019, at 11:10 AM, i
erbs via Mgs <<a
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moz-do-not-send="true">mgs@autox.team.net</a>>
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class="">could also be a bad a condenser.
Could coincidental, not causational. How old
is the condenser? Even if newish, there are
lots of crappy new Lucas parts out there. I
had three bad ones with similar results,
until replaced with a Distributor Doctor HD
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engine and
disk brakes</div>
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racing car is
an animal with
a thousand
adjustments.
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Andretti</span><br
class="">
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<div class="">Please
excuse random
auto corrects
and misspelled
words</div>
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Jul 22, 2019 at 10:36 AM David Breneman
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<div dir="ltr" class="">I've never
encountered a "bad fuel" problem
before, so I'm looking</div>
<div dir="ltr" class="">for some
confirmation (or not). The local
Mom-without-Pop store put</div>
<div dir="ltr" class="">in new
pumps, and one of the things
they're offering now is 92 octane
(US)<br class="">
</div>
<div dir="ltr" class="">alcohol-free
gas. I had about a quarter tank
in my MGA (w/MGB high</div>
<div dir="ltr" class="">compression
engine) so I went to fill up. The
pump with the alcohol-</div>
<div dir="ltr" class="">free gas was
out of order! So I put in three
gallons of regular 92<span
class="Apple-converted-space">Â </span><br
class="">
</div>
<div dir="ltr" class="">octane, and
about 1/4 mile from the station
started experiencing a lot</div>
<div dir="ltr" class="">of
misfiring, mostly when
accelerating in 3rd and 4th. I
continued</div>
<div dir="ltr" class=""><span
class=""><span
class="gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st">driving
like this for about 20 miles
to see if it would clear up
and it</span></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" class=""><span
class=""><span
class="gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st">never
did. I can't imagine it's
anything but the fuel, but
I've never</span></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" class=""><span
class=""><span
class="gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st">encountered
"bad fuel" situation like this
in 44 years of
driving.</span></span></div>
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class=""><span
class="gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st"><br
class="">
</span></span></div>
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class=""><span
class="gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st">The
fact that it started about 1/4
mile after leaving the station
seems</span></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" class=""><span
class=""><span
class="gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st">like
pretty good evidence. Any
other possibilities? Is there
any option</span></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" class=""><span
class=""><span
class="gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st">other
than to just burn through this
half tank of gas?</span></span></div>
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class=""><span
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class="">
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