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RE: Roadster EFI

To: "'Thomas in Sweden'" <csp311@telia.com>, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: Roadster EFI
From: "Seal, Marc" <MSeal@datatec.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:21:44 -0500
Alot of 240z and 510 owners have made the swap to efi, ask them.

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas in Sweden [mailto:csp311@telia.com]
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 6:24 PM
To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Roadster EFI


Bosch LH 2.4 in most cases dont need any big remapping.
The hot wire type air mass meter and oxy-sensor can handle
most variations. With a 64Kb program how difficult can it get
to adjust something the fuel map? It has been used in millions
of European cars so used parts are plenty and cheap. This is
not Motronic with electronic throttle system and 2.6Mb
software.

Thomas

Adam Fox wrote:

> I assume you realise that you will need to reprogram the EEPROM in the
unit
> for it work on the new engine, due to the new VE etc, which requires a lot
> of dyno time. A possibly better alternative to the Bosch unit is the Delco
> 808, much software has already been written to reprogram the rom.
> I'm not trying to discourage you, but you may be better off with an off
the
> shelf aftermarket system such as the EMS Wolf 3D, which is around $1400
aus,
> so near your $700us target cost. It has closed loop, real time
> programmability etc etc.
> Sorry to sound so negative, but im just putting forward some alternatives.
> If you want more info on any of the above just ask.
>
> Adam
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: James L Uhl <>
> To: Daniel Neuman <dneuman@hodge.sfsu.edu>
> Cc: <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 5:46 AM
> Subject: Roadster EFI
>
> > What I'm considering is the use of an early 90's Bosch LH 2.4 Electronic
> > Port Fuel Injection system that was used on some Euro cars.  Parts would
> > include the ECU, injectors, Air Mass Meter [(AMM) hot-wire-type], O2
> sensor,
> > Temp. sensor, and throttle body with Throttle position sensor (TPS).  A
> > wiring harness could be easily fabricated.  The parts would be least
> > expensive if purchased used.
> >
> > The BIG problem to overcome is the intake manifold.  A custom setup is
> gonna
> > be required. $$$  I have to get a car, first, but I'm pretty sure I can
> make
> > a system that's gonna perform incredibly well with (I THINK) relatively
> > inexpensive mods to the factory intake manifold!  Plus I have a friend
in
> > the engine management world who can probably help me out by spec'ing the
> > right AMM and injectors.
> >
> > Depending on how far I go, there's a possibility of using a
high-discharge
> > ignition system (40kV) that controls the timing of each cylinder
> > independently - THAT will take a little more work!
> >
> > Anybody wanna donate a 2.0L engine?
> >
> > James
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Daniel Neuman <dneuman@hodge.sfsu.edu>
> > To: jamesuhl@mediaone.net <jamesuhl@mediaone.net>
> > Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> > Date: Friday, March 30, 2001 12:57 PM
> > Subject: Re: Jets for Solex
> >
> >
> > >Hello,
> > > Yes I would be interested.  What type of fuel injection system exactly
> > >are you thinking about?  $700 bucks seems really really cheap do you
> think
> > >that you could get 'everything' for about that much?? And for that
matte
> > >what would constitute everything??
> > > Daniel 69 2000
> > > SF CA
> > >
> > >> Hey guys, this and other posts have me wondering..... would there be
> any
> > >> interest in a reliable (Bosch) Electronic Fuel Injection kit for the
> > >> Roadsters?  I'm pretty sure I have the means to produce one if I put
my
> > mind
> > >> to it.  I'm planning on making one for myself when the time comes.
> > >>
> > >> I would imagine the cost to be under $700 with used parts, but you'd
> have
> > a
> > >> damn near perfect stochiometric ratio at all times - unlike carbs!
> What
> > do
> > >> you think?
> > >>
> > >> James
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: <bob_wilson@agilent.com>
> > >> To: <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> > >> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 8:03 PM
> > >> Subject: Jets for Solex
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > This might be asking a lot, but I wondered if anyone had a bunch of
> > jets
> > >> for
> > >> > a 40mm Solex carb. To tune it up the manual says basically to try
> > >> different
> > >> > jet sizes while following their procedure. Well, this could cost a
> lot
> > >> when
> > >> > you don't exactly know how many sizes you need etc. And I need 4 of
> > each
> > >> > jet. If someone would trust me to return them (I would), I would be
> > very
> > >> > careful with them  and return all back to you when I knew the right
> > sizes.
> > >> > There are 3 different "jets":
> > >> >
> > >> > Main Jet      120
> > >> > Main Air Jet  180
> > >> > Pilot Jet      50
> > >> > The number shown is the size in my carbs now.
> > >> >
> > >> > Since my engine is "spitting back" out thru the carb throats at
idle,
> > the
> > >> > mikuni/solex manual says that I am probably too lean. So need to go
> to
> > >> > larger Pilot Jet. This is the first Jet I need to get right. Then
go
> on
> > to
> > >> > the others.
> > >> >
> > >> > I have made a stroker out of my 1600 block and head. So it is now a
> > 2.0L,
> > >> > with about 9.2 CR.
> > >> >
> > >> > If anyone could loan me some jets near to the above sizes, or
> recommend
> > >> the
> > >> > correct sizes for my application, it would be nice.
> > >> >
> > >> > Bob Wilson
> > >> > San Jose, Calif area
> > >> > 1970 1600 stroker 28383

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