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Re: Roadster EFI

To: <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Roadster EFI
From: "James Uhl" <jamesuhl@mediaone.net>
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:49:22 -0600
Maybe....
Just remember.... they told Columbus the Earth was flat.

Your eternal optimist,
James

----- Original Message -----
From: "datsunmike" <datsunmike@nyc.rr.com>
To: "James L Uhl" <jamesuhl@mediaone.net>; "Daniel Neuman"
<dneuman@hodge.sfsu.edu>
Cc: <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: Roadster EFI


> IMHO it would be cheaper and easier to put a modern engine in the Roadster
> than to design an EFI for the U20. After looking at the TWM site and
> listening to all of you it's gonna cost 3K+ when all is said and done. And
> while there will be increased driveability and some power gains the Q is
> this: Is it really worth all the effort and time and $$$$$? And what
happens
> if it doesn't work well, which is a possibility especially if you have to
do
> all the programming work. I know someone that had a programmable ECU on
> their Miata because it was cool and his car ran worse than before. He also
> didn't program it right and it was way lean and almost melted his engine.
He
> did damage it.
>
> At TWM they say it'll cost 2600 w/o an ECU or the wiring or plumbing and
> that is providing you have a Solex manifold.
>
> IMHO,
> Mike
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James L Uhl" <jamesuhl@mediaone.net>
> To: "Daniel Neuman" <dneuman@hodge.sfsu.edu>
> Cc: <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 2:46 PM
> Subject: Roadster EFI
>
>
> > What I'm considering is the use of an early 90's Bosch LH 2.4 Electronic
> > Port Fuel Injection system that was used on some Euro cars.  Parts would
> > include the ECU, injectors, Air Mass Meter [(AMM) hot-wire-type], O2
> sensor,
> > Temp. sensor, and throttle body with Throttle position sensor (TPS).  A
> > wiring harness could be easily fabricated.  The parts would be least
> > expensive if purchased used.
> >
> > The BIG problem to overcome is the intake manifold.  A custom setup is
> gonna
> > be required. $$$  I have to get a car, first, but I'm pretty sure I can
> make
> > a system that's gonna perform incredibly well with (I THINK) relatively
> > inexpensive mods to the factory intake manifold!  Plus I have a friend
in
> > the engine management world who can probably help me out by spec'ing the
> > right AMM and injectors.
> >
> > Depending on how far I go, there's a possibility of using a
high-discharge
> > ignition system (40kV) that controls the timing of each cylinder
> > independently - THAT will take a little more work!
> >
> > Anybody wanna donate a 2.0L engine?
> >
> > James
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Daniel Neuman <dneuman@hodge.sfsu.edu>
> > To: jamesuhl@mediaone.net <jamesuhl@mediaone.net>
> > Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> > Date: Friday, March 30, 2001 12:57 PM
> > Subject: Re: Jets for Solex
> >
> >
> > >Hello,
> > > Yes I would be interested.  What type of fuel injection system exactly
> > >are you thinking about?  $700 bucks seems really really cheap do you
> think
> > >that you could get 'everything' for about that much?? And for that
matte
> > >what would constitute everything??
> > > Daniel 69 2000
> > > SF CA
> > >
> > >> Hey guys, this and other posts have me wondering..... would there be
> any
> > >> interest in a reliable (Bosch) Electronic Fuel Injection kit for the
> > >> Roadsters?  I'm pretty sure I have the means to produce one if I put
my
> > mind
> > >> to it.  I'm planning on making one for myself when the time comes.
> > >>
> > >> I would imagine the cost to be under $700 with used parts, but you'd
> have
> > a
> > >> damn near perfect stochiometric ratio at all times - unlike carbs!
> What
> > do
> > >> you think?
> > >>
> > >> James
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: <bob_wilson@agilent.com>
> > >> To: <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> > >> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 8:03 PM
> > >> Subject: Jets for Solex
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > This might be asking a lot, but I wondered if anyone had a bunch of
> > jets
> > >> for
> > >> > a 40mm Solex carb. To tune it up the manual says basically to try
> > >> different
> > >> > jet sizes while following their procedure. Well, this could cost a
> lot
> > >> when
> > >> > you don't exactly know how many sizes you need etc. And I need 4 of
> > each
> > >> > jet. If someone would trust me to return them (I would), I would be
> > very
> > >> > careful with them  and return all back to you when I knew the right
> > sizes.
> > >> > There are 3 different "jets":
> > >> >
> > >> > Main Jet      120
> > >> > Main Air Jet  180
> > >> > Pilot Jet      50
> > >> > The number shown is the size in my carbs now.
> > >> >
> > >> > Since my engine is "spitting back" out thru the carb throats at
idle,
> > the
> > >> > mikuni/solex manual says that I am probably too lean. So need to go
> to
> > >> > larger Pilot Jet. This is the first Jet I need to get right. Then
go
> on
> > to
> > >> > the others.
> > >> >
> > >> > I have made a stroker out of my 1600 block and head. So it is now a
> > 2.0L,
> > >> > with about 9.2 CR.
> > >> >
> > >> > If anyone could loan me some jets near to the above sizes, or
> recommend
> > >> the
> > >> > correct sizes for my application, it would be nice.
> > >> >
> > >> > Bob Wilson
> > >> > San Jose, Calif area
> > >> > 1970 1600 stroker 28383

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