This not meant as smart a$$, so please don't take it that way.
What are the drawbacks to having 60 classes as opposed to 50? What bad
thing does this bring to the sport? I guess my logic could create the
situation in 5 years of someone saying the same thing, just with 70 classes
opposed to 60 and so on. 150 classes is too many too, IMO, but the current
mix seems pretty good.
Under subscribed classes should be eliminated under due course. The current
rule seems to work. Wasn't AM under probation last year due to low turnout?
This year, they had good turnout. The situation remedied itself.
Were there any classes with less than 12 entrants at nationals this year?
The new classes just added participants without removing them from other
classes (or they were replaced)
One thing is for sure, we (team.nut) could argue about this until our
keyboards wore out and still not change too many minds (among ourselves)
RogerStock - 4 entrants and counting
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: <rjohnson@friendlynet.com>
To: <autox@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: BSM/SM2
>
> Clearly, we are talking about degrees in this stuff:
>
> Perhaps all would agree that 1 entrant in a class at the National
> Championship, on a consistent basis, is too few entries to warrant
> a class. 150 entries might be universally regarded as too many, and
> worth
> a split.
>
> Perhaps all would agree that 2 classes for National competition is too
> few. 150 classes might be universally regarded as too many, and worth
> consolidation.
>
> IMO, a class populated by less than 2% of the field at a National
> Championship, on a consistent basis, is too few to warrant further
> inclusion as a National class.
>
> IMO, 62 classes is too many. A previous SEB held strong convictions
> that
> they would not exceed 50, and held to that number for 6 years. Since
> 1998,
> the floodgates have been opened.
>
> I congratulate the SCAC for holding the line at 9 open classes for 12
> years
> now, in spite of the participant population showing that, compared to
> the other categories, there should be more. I applaud their stand,
> especially in
> the face of no discipline as to the number of classes in SP-P-M &
> 'Other'.
>
> I have absolutely no problem with F125, SM, STS, STR, FP, OSP or any
> of
> the other alphabet-soup classes run in various parts of the country, so
> long
> as there are sufficient entries to warrant National status.
> If this means that some of the older, established but yet
> diminishing-number
> classes have to go away or consolidate or have Regional-only status, so
> be it.
> People vote with their feet & their money.
>
> Roger
>
> (Note: I know of 4 'Roger Johnson' named folks that autocross. There
> could be more. . . . .)
>
>
>
> DA>2 classes : People named Roger Johnson (2 entrants) and the rest of us
:)
> DA>:) BIG GRIN INTENDED
>
> DA>Seriously, the current # of classes seems very close to the correct
number.
> DA>Within reason, what pluses are there to only having 20 classes as
opposed to
> DA>the current 54. Shorter banquets? BFD IMO If they go to a 6 day
format to
> DA>handle the number of cars, then there will be more, shorter banquets.
>
> DA>What does eliminating the ladies classes help? Does having these
classes do
> DA>anything bad to the sport?
>
> DA>Dave
>
> DA>----- Original Message -----
> DA>From: "Kent Rafferty" <gs96@sgi.net>
> DA>To: <autox@autox.team.net>
> DA>Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 1:07 PM
> DA>Subject: Re: BSM/SM2
>
>
> DA>> Based on Roger's criteria, we should eliminate the
> DA>> following classes:
> DA>>
> DA>> Street Prepared: DSP ASP,
> DA>> Prepared: BP, AP, FP, EP, DP
> DA>> Modified: DM, BM, EM, AM, FM
> DA>> Other: F125, SM
> DA>>
> DA>> That certainly will streamline Solo II :-)
> DA>>
> DA>> Kent Rafferty
> DA>>
> DA>> Roger wrote:
> DA>> > Me too - already too many classes. 20 entrants at
> DA>> > an event with almost 1100 competitors isn't enough
> DA>> > for a new class to be considered, or for an old class
> DA>> > to be retained.
> DA>> >
> DA>> > Roger
> DA>> >
> DA>> >
> DA>> > BU>I agree, we don't need Natinal class
> DA>> >
> DA>> > BU>-----Original Message-----
> DA>> > BU>From: owner-autox@autox.team.net
> DA>> [mailto:owner-autox@autox.team.net]On
> DA>> > BU>Behalf Of Don Kline
> DA>> > BU>Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 9:30 PM
> DA>> > BU>To: lamont@mailhost.org; autox@autox.team.net
> DA>> > BU>Subject: Re: BSM/SM2
> DA>> >
> DA>> >
> DA>> > BU>Brad wrote:
> DA>> >
> DA>> > BU>I still think that SM should be a regional only
> DA>> class, with no national
> DA>> > BU>level classes. It should be a catch-all for
> DA>> people who show up to events
> DA>> > BU>with cars not prepared to SCCA rules so they don't
> DA>> run DM/EM.
> DA>> >
> DA>> > BU>Just my opinion,
> DA>> >
> DA>> > BU>Brad
> DA>> >
> DA>> >
> DA>> >
> DA>> >
> DA>> >
> DA>> >
> DA>>
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