[TR] VINs

Wbeech@flash.net wbeech at flash.net
Wed Nov 6 17:30:39 MST 2019


I think it erred years ago, should try again.  
Bill


Cactus Jack drinks coffee black......BWS

> On Nov 6, 2019, at 5:53 PM, Greg Lemon <grglmn at gmail.com> wrote:
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"My Morgan is one of hundreds with the same 17 digit VIN"

Must make for an interesting Carfax report

Greg Lemon 
TR250

> On Wed, Nov 6, 2019, 5:03 PM wbeech <wbeech at flash.net> wrote:
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> My Morgan is one of hundreds with the same 17 digit VIN.  Seems when they ordered the blank VIN plates there was a sample number inserted that got replicated.  Had a brief skirmish with the insurance company before getting a letter from MMC explaining it.  DMV used the 5 digit chassis number without any questions.
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> From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of jpaynepbr at cox.net
> Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 4:10 PM
> To: 'Andrew Uprichard' <auprichard at uprichard.net>; 'Triumphs' <triumphs at autox.team.net>; 6pack at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] VINs
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> I have seen many mangled “VIN Numbers” on vintage car titles.
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> Apparently when DMV’s across the country became computerized, there was no standard on how to input 17 digits in on a title for a car with a 4 or 5 digit serial number. 
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> The solution for my 1960 Morgan registered in Hawaii was to insert 13 zeros in front of the 4 digit serial number.
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> I had a 1964 AH 3000 with a CA title that was AHEALEYBJ then the body tag number
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> Jonas Payne
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> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Andrew Uprichard
> Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 1:13 PM
> To: 'Triumphs' <triumphs at autox.team.net>; 6pack at autox.team.net
> Subject: [TR] VINs
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> I just went to get a title on a TR which came with a factory overdrive.  The old title appropriately ended “LO”, but I was told that “Os” and “Is” are no longer acceptable in titles.  So I had to change the VIN (on the title) to “L0”.  Then I had to call the insurance company to explain the same story to them and have them send me a proof of insurance with “L0”
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> Anyone else come across this?  Maybe it has been going on for years:  I have 4 cars with overdrive, but this was the first factory one.
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