<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">I think it erred years ago, should try again. <div>Bill</div><div><br><br><div dir="ltr">Cactus Jack drinks coffee black......BWS</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Nov 6, 2019, at 5:53 PM, Greg Lemon <grglmn@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">"My Morgan is one of hundreds with the same 17 digit VIN"</span><div dir="auto"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">Must make for an interesting Carfax report</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">Greg Lemon </span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">TR250</span></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 6, 2019, 5:03 PM wbeech <<a href="mailto:wbeech@flash.net">wbeech@flash.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_7615099030354052932WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Jonas,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">My Morgan is one of hundreds with the same 17 digit VIN. Seems when they ordered the blank VIN plates there was a sample number inserted that got replicated. Had a brief skirmish with the insurance company before getting a letter from MMC explaining it. DMV used the 5 digit chassis number without any questions.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Bill<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Triumphs [mailto:<a href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:jpaynepbr@cox.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jpaynepbr@cox.net</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 6, 2019 4:10 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Andrew Uprichard' <<a href="mailto:auprichard@uprichard.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">auprichard@uprichard.net</a>>; 'Triumphs' <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>>; <a href="mailto:6pack@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">6pack@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] VINs<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Andrew,<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">I have seen many mangled “VIN Numbers” on vintage car titles.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Apparently when DMV’s across the country became computerized, there was no standard on how to input 17 digits in on a title for a car with a 4 or 5 digit serial number. <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">The solution for my 1960 Morgan registered in Hawaii was to insert 13 zeros in front of the 4 digit serial number.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">I had a 1964 AH 3000 with a CA title that was AHEALEYBJ then the body tag number<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Jonas Payne<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">PBR Consulting Services, LLC<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">702.882.6711<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i>We have Moved!<u></u><u></u></i></b></p><p class="MsoNormal">Our new offices are locted at:<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">3191 E. Warm Springs Rd. #13<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Las Vegas, NV 89120<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Triumphs <<a href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Uprichard<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 6, 2019 1:13 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Triumphs' <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>>; <a href="mailto:6pack@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">6pack@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [TR] VINs<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I just went to get a title on a TR which came with a factory overdrive. The old title appropriately ended “LO”, but I was told that “Os” and “Is” are no longer acceptable in titles. So I had to change the VIN (on the title) to “L0”. Then I had to call the insurance company to explain the same story to them and have them send me a proof of insurance with “L0”<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Anyone else come across this? Maybe it has been going on for years: I have 4 cars with overdrive, but this was the first factory one.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Andrew Uprichard<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Jackson, MI<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div>** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br>
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