[TR] VINs

[Greg Lemon]

"My Morgan is one of hundreds with the same 17 digit VIN"

Must make for an interesting Carfax report

Greg Lemon
TR250

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019, 5:03 PM wbeech <wbeech at flash.net> wrote:

> Jonas,
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> My Morgan is one of hundreds with the same 17 digit VIN.  Seems when they
> ordered the blank VIN plates there was a sample number inserted that got
> replicated.  Had a brief skirmish with the insurance company before getting
> a letter from MMC explaining it.  DMV used the 5 digit chassis number
> without any questions.
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> Bill
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> *From:* Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *
> jpaynepbr at cox.net
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 6, 2019 4:10 PM
> *To:* 'Andrew Uprichard' <auprichard at uprichard.net>; 'Triumphs' <
> triumphs at autox.team.net>; 6pack at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] VINs
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> Andrew,
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> I have seen many mangled “VIN Numbers” on vintage car titles.
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> Apparently when DMV’s across the country became computerized, there was no
> standard on how to input 17 digits in on a title for a car with a 4 or 5
> digit serial number.
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> The solution for my 1960 Morgan registered in Hawaii was to insert 13
> zeros in front of the 4 digit serial number.
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> I had a 1964 AH 3000 with a CA title that was AHEALEYBJ then the body tag
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> Jonas Payne
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> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Andrew
> Uprichard
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 6, 2019 1:13 PM
> *To:* 'Triumphs' <triumphs at autox.team.net>; 6pack at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [TR] VINs
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> I just went to get a title on a TR which came with a factory overdrive.
> The old title appropriately ended “LO”, but I was told that “Os” and “Is”
> are no longer acceptable in titles.  So I had to change the VIN (on the
> title) to “L0”.  Then I had to call the insurance company to explain the
> same story to them and have them send me a proof of insurance with “L0”.
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> Anyone else come across this?  Maybe it has been going on for years:  I
> have 4 cars with overdrive, but this was the first factory one.
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> Andrew Uprichard
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> Jackson, MI
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