[TR] TR3 Turn Signal woes

[Brian Kemp]

I had a problem with corroded and broken bullet connectors in my TR6.  
At some point I'd check the inside of the connectors and perhaps replace 
them.

Brian

On 1/9/2018 5:14 PM, cfmtr3a wrote:
>  I'm not sure what I did but it is working. I disconnected each bullet 
> from the connector and then reconnected it. When I was all done, it 
> work. What a fun day.
>
> Later
> Carl
>
>
>
> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7 active, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: CFM-TR <cfmtr3a at verizon.net>
> Date: 1/9/18 4:27 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: 'wbeech' <wbeech at flash.net>, 'TR Triumphs' <triumphs at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Turn Signal woes
>
> Thanks for the responses.
>
> I added bullet connectors in both Green/White (GW for RR signal) & 
> Green/Red (GR for LR signal) lines just before lamps
>
> Further investigation.
> With Lamps still connected
> When RR is disconnected (No ground/No Live), LR still flashes.
> Reconnected RR and disconnected GR, LR does not flash.
> BUT - RR works as it should; Left Rear doesn’t work when triggered at 
> Control Head.
>
> Disconnected Lamps at bullet connectors; Used two test lamp circuits 
> with grounds connected to body:
> With both test lamps connected, both flash the same as lamps.
> With RR disconnected, test lamp connected to GR from wire harness, 
> Test Lamp flashes.
> In other words – no difference from original problem.
>
> GR comes through wire harness from passenger side connections at RF Horn.
> Checked GN from flasher to RF connection and it is doubled up with the 
> GN going to LF; GR is a dead-end at RF connection.
>
> Not sure what to do next….  Suggestions?
>
> Thanks
> Carl
>
> 1960 Triumph TR3
>
> TS81802LO
>
> Tampa, FL
>
> *From:* Dave [mailto:dave1massey at cs.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 9, 2018 7:58 AM
> *To:* cfmtr3a at verizon.net; triumphs at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] TR3 Turn Signal woes
>
> Since the front and rear lights work off the same wire and the fronts 
> work I would look at the ground connections at the rear, specifically 
> the right rear.  The wire may be inserted in the right place but is it 
> making connection?  Corrosion or a broken wire may be creating 
> unintended current paths leading to bizarre results such as this.
>
> When the RR lamp flashes is it as bright as the LR when it flashes 
> alone?  Is the LR brighter when you engage the left turn signal as 
> when you engage the right turn signal?
>
> Dave Massey
>
> *From:* wbeech [mailto:wbeech at flash.net]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 8, 2018 11:22 PM
> *To:* cfmtr3a at verizon.net; 'TR Triumphs' <triumphs at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* RE: [TR] TR3 Turn Signal woes
>
> I have had issues like that before on my car and others. Assuming a 
> good ground I would pull everything loose near the fixtures, including 
> the running and brake lights, and connect up one at a time and test 
> each time I made a connections.  As soon as something goes wrong, 
> chase that wire back through all the points to confirm that it is 
> correct.  Don’t assume that he flasher and the connections inside the 
> steering hub are good.
>
> No easy answer, may 5 minutes, maybe 5 hours.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Bill
>
> *From:* Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf 
> Of *CFM-TR
> *Sent:* Monday, January 08, 2018 9:11 PM
> *To:* 'TR Triumphs' <triumphs at autox.team.net 
> <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net>>
> *Subject:* [TR] TR3 Turn Signal woes
>
> See attached diagram.
>
> When I operate left turn on control head, front and rear operate as 
> they should.
>
> When I operate right turn on control, right front works but both lamps 
> flash in the rear.
>
> Any ideas where the problem is?  I am at a complete loss.  I would 
> think that if I have right/left crossover, both lamps in the rear 
> would flash regardless of which indicator is used.  I checked 
> connections at the rear lamps and only a single line (correct one GR 
> or GW) is connected.  Only line going to right front is GW.  I have 
> tried different connections at left front since the GN and GR look so 
> similar but nothing works then.  I checked all four corners and 
> live/ground wires are going to the correct terminals.
>
> Any ideas appreciated.  Thanks
>
> Carl Musson
>
> 1960 Triumph TR3
>
> TS81802LO
>
> Tampa, FL
>
>
>
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