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I had a problem with corroded and broken bullet connectors in my
TR6. At some point I'd check the inside of the connectors and
perhaps replace them. <br>
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Brian<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/9/2018 5:14 PM, cfmtr3a wrote:<br>
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<div><font face="sans-serif"> I'm not sure what I did but it is
working. I disconnected each bullet from the connector and
then reconnected it. When I was all done, it work. What a fun
day.</font></div>
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<div>Later</div>
<div>Carl</div>
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<div>From: CFM-TR <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cfmtr3a@verizon.net"><cfmtr3a@verizon.net></a> </div>
<div>Date: 1/9/18 4:27 PM (GMT-05:00) </div>
<div>To: 'wbeech' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:wbeech@flash.net"><wbeech@flash.net></a>, 'TR Triumphs'
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"><triumphs@autox.team.net></a> </div>
<div>Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Turn Signal woes </div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">Thanks
for the responses. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">I
added bullet connectors in both Green/White (GW for RR
signal) & Green/Red (GR for LR signal) lines just before
lamps <br>
<br>
Further investigation. <br>
With Lamps still connected <br>
When RR is disconnected (No ground/No Live), LR still
flashes.<br>
Reconnected RR and disconnected GR, LR does not flash. <br>
BUT - RR works as it should; Left Rear doesn’t work when
triggered at Control Head.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">Disconnected
Lamps at bullet connectors; Used two test lamp circuits with
grounds connected to body:<br>
With both test lamps connected, both flash the same as
lamps.<br>
With RR disconnected, test lamp connected to GR from wire
harness, Test Lamp flashes.<br>
In other words – no difference from original problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">GR
comes through wire harness from passenger side connections
at RF Horn.<br>
Checked GN from flasher to RF connection and it is doubled
up with the GN going to LF; GR is a dead-end at RF
connection.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">Not
sure what to do next…. Suggestions?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">Thanks<br>
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">Carl <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">1960 Triumph
TR3<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">TS81802LO<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Tampa, FL<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b>From:</b> Dave
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:dave1massey@cs.com">mailto:dave1massey@cs.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 9, 2018 7:58 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cfmtr3a@verizon.net">cfmtr3a@verizon.net</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] TR3 Turn Signal woes<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">Since
the front and rear lights work off the same wire and the
fronts work I would look at the ground connections at the
rear, specifically the right rear. The wire may be inserted
in the right place but is it making connection? Corrosion
or a broken wire may be creating unintended current paths
leading to bizarre results such as this.<br>
<br>
When the RR lamp flashes is it as bright as the LR when it
flashes alone? Is the LR brighter when you engage the left
turn signal as when you engage the right turn signal? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in"><span
style="color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">Dave
Massey<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b>From:</b>
wbeech [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:wbeech@flash.net">mailto:wbeech@flash.net</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 8, 2018 11:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cfmtr3a@verizon.net">cfmtr3a@verizon.net</a>; 'TR Triumphs'
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"><triumphs@autox.team.net></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [TR] TR3 Turn Signal woes<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">I
have had issues like that before on my car and others.
Assuming a good ground I would pull everything loose near
the fixtures, including the running and brake lights, and
connect up one at a time and test each time I made a
connections. As soon as something goes wrong, chase that
wire back through all the points to confirm that it is
correct. Don’t assume that he flasher and the connections
inside the steering hub are good.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">No
easy answer, may 5 minutes, maybe 5 hours.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">Good
luck,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">Bill<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b>From:</b>
Triumphs [<a href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>CFM-TR<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 08, 2018 9:11 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'TR Triumphs' <<a
href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [TR] TR3 Turn Signal woes<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">See attached
diagram.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">When I operate
left turn on control head, front and rear operate as they
should.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">When I operate
right turn on control, right front works but both lamps flash
in the rear.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Any ideas where
the problem is? I am at a complete loss. I would think that
if I have right/left crossover, both lamps in the rear would
flash regardless of which indicator is used. I checked
connections at the rear lamps and only a single line (correct
one GR or GW) is connected. Only line going to right front is
GW. I have tried different connections at left front since
the GN and GR look so similar but nothing works then. I
checked all four corners and live/ground wires are going to
the correct terminals.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Any ideas
appreciated. Thanks<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Carl Musson<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">1960 Triumph TR3<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">TS81802LO<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Tampa, FL<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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