[Mgs] Brown & Gammons LTD

[Paul Hunt]

Which parts have you had problems with?  They are one of the four main 
suppliers I use and I can't guarantee not to have problems with any of 
them.

Moss has been the cause of my problems lately.  A new headlight switch 
didn't work out of the box and had to be opened  up and the contacts 
cleaned.  Headlight sub-harnesses had pressed bullets instead of the 
usual brass and were way too small for the standard Lucar connectors.  
And even if they had been the right diameter they were too long with an 
uninsulated portion sticking out the back 1/4" so at risk of shorting 
unless sleeved with heat-shrink. Some years ago king-pin shims stamped 
with different numbers but all the same thickness.

'Lucas' indicator flasher units from a variety of sources with box and 
can all stamped with the correct information but internally they are 
hazard flashers which work very differently and have two safety 
implications when used as indicators.

A recent case on the MGOC fora where a chap in America had bought new 
stub-axles and wheel bearings from the club where the bearings didn't 
fit the axles because the latter were over-size.

Even when you do get things that work 'out of the box, they don't last 
anywhere near as long as the originals e.g. wheel cylinders and clutch 
slaves only lasting a few k before they either leak, or seize in the 
case of the wheel cylinders.

Hydraulic brake light switches that start failing after just  few 
months.  After a 'discussion' the MGOC did send a replacement that I use 
with a relay.  Present stock has a very simple pressure contact instead 
of the original sliding contact that is self-cleaning, arcing from the 
high inrush current of filament bulbs occurs from day one and very soon 
they start going high-resistance needing more and more pressure from the 
pedal before the lights come on.

What's important is how they respond to complaints - if you do complain, 
many users just seem to moan on fora.  There is another supplier here 
who I have had problems with over and over again, they come out very 
high in the annual MGOC survey being popular because of price, but when 
they supplied 'stainless' steel wheel nuts that rusted over one winter 
with no wet or salt running I had to threaten them with court action 
before they would replace them.  Needless to say I don't touch them with 
a barge pole now.

There are only a limited number of manufacturers, and suppliers probably 
shop around for the cheapest just like users seem to do. Even when a 
supplier offers an 'OE' a cheaper 'aftermarket' the more expensive OE 
aren't as good as they should be.

PaulH.

On 15/08/2023 23:15, dave northrup wrote:
>
> Just want everyone to know that this British company in Baldock 
> Hertfordshire sells pure unadulterated crap.
>
> DO NOT patronize these people; you will regret it
>
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