[Mgs] Brown & Gammons LTD

[dave northrup]

They sent me some seat foams that are so thin and worthless that Walmart would be too embarrassed to stock.  NO RETURNS!!!!!

And btw Moss typically carries crap.  They should be the vendor of last resort.

For MGA parts I like mgaparts.com, aka Scarborough Faire.

From: Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Paul Hunt
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2023 2:38 AM
To: mgs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Mgs] Brown & Gammons LTD


Which parts have you had problems with?  They are one of the four main suppliers I use and I can't guarantee not to have problems with any of them.

Moss has been the cause of my problems lately.  A new headlight switch didn't work out of the box and had to be opened  up and the contacts cleaned.  Headlight sub-harnesses had pressed bullets instead of the usual brass and were way too small for the standard Lucar connectors.  And even if they had been the right diameter they were too long with an uninsulated portion sticking out the back 1/4" so at risk of shorting unless sleeved with heat-shrink.  Some years ago king-pin shims stamped with different numbers but all the same thickness.

'Lucas' indicator flasher units from a variety of sources with box and can all stamped with the correct information but internally they are hazard flashers which work very differently and have two safety implications when used as indicators.

A recent case on the MGOC fora where a chap in America had bought new stub-axles and wheel bearings from the club where the bearings didn't fit the axles because the latter were over-size.

Even when you do get things that work 'out of the box, they don't last anywhere near as long as the originals e.g. wheel cylinders and clutch slaves only lasting a few k before they either leak, or seize in the case of the wheel cylinders.

Hydraulic brake light switches that start failing after just  few months.  After a 'discussion' the MGOC did send a replacement that I use with a relay.  Present stock has a very simple pressure contact instead of the original sliding contact that is self-cleaning, arcing from the high inrush current of filament bulbs occurs from day one and very soon they start going high-resistance needing more and more pressure from the pedal before the lights come on.
What's important is how they respond to complaints - if you do complain, many users just seem to moan on fora.  There is another supplier here who I have had problems with over and over again, they come out very high in the annual MGOC survey being popular because of price, but when they supplied 'stainless' steel wheel nuts that rusted over one winter with no wet or salt running I had to threaten them with court action before they would replace them.  Needless to say I don't touch them with a barge pole now.

There are only a limited number of manufacturers, and suppliers probably shop around for the cheapest just like users seem to do.  Even when a supplier offers an 'OE' a cheaper 'aftermarket' the more expensive OE aren't as good as they should be.

PaulH.
On 15/08/2023 23:15, dave northrup wrote:
Just want everyone to know that this British company in Baldock Hertfordshire sells pure unadulterated crap.

DO NOT patronize these people; you will regret it



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