[Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 115, Issue 6
Craig Tufty
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Fri Dec 9 15:22:34 MST 2016
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> 70b
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> Is there a detailed list available of what the MOT looks for on a B?
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>> 1. Wire wheel replacing spokes (Hans Duinhoven)
>> 2. Re: Wire wheel replacing spokes (Max Heim)
>> 3. Re: Wire wheel replacing spokes (PaulHunt73)
>> 4. Re: Wire wheel replacing spokes (Dan DiBiase)
>> 5. Re: Wire wheel replacing spokes (PaulHunt73)
>> 6. Re: Wire wheel replacing spokes (Max Heim)
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>> Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2016 22:45:45 +0100
>> From: "Hans Duinhoven" <h.duinhoven at planet.nl>
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>> Subject: [Mgs] Wire wheel replacing spokes
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>> I've got two chromed wire wheels, which did not pass the MOT test.
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>> There are several lose spokes.
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>> All nipples are solid, so is it worth while to replace all spokes (buy a
>> replacement set)?
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>> I'm not afraid to do the replacement work myself, as I have experience with
>> many mopeds and bikes.
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>> The wheels still are pretty nice.
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>> Looking to a spare set of spokes (40 and 20) it seems a complete set becomes
>> far too expensive.
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>> Am I right?
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>> Cheers,
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>> Hans Duinhoven
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>> 71 BGT
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>> From: Max Heim <mvheim at sonic.net>
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>> You are right ? a complete set of spokes far exceeds the cost of a new chrome wheel. But it?s not difficult to replace individual spokes. I have done it many times over the years. And that is definitely cheaper than buying a new wheel very time you break a spoke or two. No reason to replace them all ? just ones that are broken or noticeably rusted.
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>> Max Heim
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>>> On Dec 7, 2016, at 1:45 PM, Hans Duinhoven via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net> wrote:
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>>> I?ve got two chromed wire wheels, which did not pass the MOT test.
>>> There are several lose spokes.
>>> All nipples are solid, so is it worth while to replace all spokes (buy a replacement set)?
>>> I?m not afraid to do the replacement work myself, as I have experience with many mopeds and bikes.
>>> The wheels still are pretty nice.
>>>
>>> Looking to a spare set of spokes (40 and 20) it seems a complete set becomes far too expensive.
>>> Am I right?
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>>> Cheers,
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>>> Hans Duinhoven
>>> 71 BGT
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>> To: "Hans Duinhoven" <h.duinhoven at planet.nl>, <mgs at autox.team.net>
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>> Same as Max, just replace the ones that need to be. I've had to replace single spokes a number of times, always the long ones. You do need to unscrew the nipple on an adjacent spoke to be able to swing it out of the way to get those back in, and sometimes one on the other side as well, it depends on the overall length of the new spoke and how far the thickened shank extends. So how much work it is going to be depends on whether those adjacent spokes have seized nipples. More info here: http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/rs.htm#1
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>> PaulH.
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>> I've got two chromed wire wheels, which did not pass the MOT test.
>> There are several lose spokes.
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>> All nipples are solid, so is it worth while to replace all spokes (buy a replacement set)?
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>> I'm not afraid to do the replacement work myself, as I have experience with many mopeds and bikes.
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>> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 12:27:36 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: Dan DiBiase <d_dibiase at yahoo.com>
>> To: Hans Duinhoven <h.duinhoven at planet.nl>, "mgs at autox.team.net"
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>> Do they check every spoke when they do the MOT? I can't imagine anyone in the US checking for something like that during our 'inspections'. Here in NJ, they don't evendo safety inspections any longer, just emissions testing.
>> Dan D'76B, '65B (both spokeless)Central NJ USA
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>> From: Hans Duinhoven via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net>
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>> I've never known them check the spokes in the UK, although the test does call for it in 1b: http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_420.htm
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>> An ex-MOTer pal says it is a visual only (like on BMW spoked alloys) although a very keen tester may ping them - all 240/320 of them. In my experience when they break the break is inside the hub, so only detectable if you do ping or wiggle them.
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>> PaulH.
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>> Do they check every spoke when they do the MOT? I can't imagine anyone in the US checking for something like that during our 'inspections'. Here in NJ, they don't even
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>> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 09:33:13 -0800
>> From: Max Heim <mvheim at sonic.net>
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>> Yes, the ping test is pretty tedious?
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>> I find they either break just below the head (inside the hub, as you said) or on the threaded end just outside the nipple (where they often rust), and this is usually only when you are trying to adjust them.
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>>> On Dec 8, 2016, at 6:06 AM, PaulHunt73 via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net> wrote:
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>>> I've never known them check the spokes in the UK, although the test does call for it in 1b: http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_420.htm <http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_420.htm>
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>>> An ex-MOTer pal says it is a visual only (like on BMW spoked alloys) although a very keen tester may ping them - all 240/320 of them. In my experience when they break the break is inside the hub, so only detectable if you do ping or wiggle them.
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>>> PaulH.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
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>>>> Do they check every spoke when they do the MOT? I can't imagine anyone in the US checking for something like that during our 'inspections'. Here in NJ, they don't even
>>>> do safety inspections any longer, just emissions testing.
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> If it is a '70 MGB, then it should be exempt from emissions testing.
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> Simon
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>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Craig Tufty via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 70b
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>> Is there a detailed list available of what the MOT looks for on a B?
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>> Thanks
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> Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2016 10:21:22 -0000
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> See here http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual/contents.htm
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> As said emissions levels aren't checked, just a visual smoke test.
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