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Re: More od solenoid switching stuff-

To: TR List <triumphs@Autox.Team.Net>, Dan Masters <DANMAS@aol.com>
Subject: Re: More od solenoid switching stuff-
From: Dave Massey <105671.471@compuserve.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 11:50:03 -0400
Dan Masters writes

>
>
>In a message dated 98-06-04 09:02:07 EDT, bschwart@pacbell.net writes:
>
>> You would certainly lengthen the life (at least of the switch and the
relay
>>  and possibly the solenoid) by at least double by halving the amount of
>>  actuation/de-actuation cycles!  Although there's not really anything to
>>  wear out in a solenoid I have herd stories of them failing and this may
be
>>  due in part to cycling fatigue of the connections to the wire of the
coil
>>  inside the solenoid itself.  This and the heat of the unit while in
>>  operation, so reducing the cycling times surely can't hurt!
>
>Barry,
>
>There are actually two coils in the OD solenoid -- One heavy duty coil to
pull
>the solenoid in place, and another lighter duty coil to hold it in place
after
>it has been pulled into place.  The heavy duty coil draws a LOT of
current.
>Once the solenoid has actuated, it operates a switch which disconnects the
>heavy duty coil, leaving only the low current drain holding coil
energized.
>This switch is a common failure point.  Anytime you switch an inductive
load
>(coil), the switch contacts take a beating.  A diode would probably help,
but
>it would have to be a humongous diode for this application.  I don't have
hard
>data, but I have been led to believe that the larger coil draws as much as
>thirty amps!
>
>You're right, the fewer times you operate this switch, the better (as well
as
>the manual actuating switch).
>
>Dan Masters,
>Alcoa, TN

Dan,

This is true for the A-type overdrive but the J-type uses a pilot operated
valve which requires much less force from the solenoid and concequently
can get by with a single coil solenoid that draws about 5 Amps.  I don't
know about the D-type.

But Barry is right and I think that if Triumph could have done it that
way on the three rail transmission, they would have.  As for me I don't
shift between 3rd O/D and 4th O/D, I switch between 4th O/D and 4th
straight!
It's much easier and quicker.  I occasionally shift from 3rd O/D and 4th
O/D on
those rare occasions that I switch on the O/D in 3rd.  

Dave

P.S. see you in Hudson WI


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