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To: "'Tom Witt'" <atwittsend@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] exchange door locking devices
From: "Ron Fraser" <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2024 15:44:36 -0400
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Found this link for sunbeam locks.

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<https://forum.sunbeamalpine.org/index.php?threads/sunbeam-alpine-tiger-r=
ebuilding-and-re-fitting-door-handles-and-locks.29310/> Sunbeam Alpine & =
Tiger: Rebuilding and re-fitting door handles and locks. | SAOCA Forum

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Maybe it will help.

Ron Fraser

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From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Ron Fraser
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2024 10:18 AM
To: 'Tom Witt' <atwittsend@verizon.net>
Cc: tigers@Autox.Team.Net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] exchange door locking devices

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Here is a picture of an ignition switch lock cylinder and key.

With the key inserted everything is flush with the lock cylinder so it =
will turn.

Pins or wafers are spring loaded, they can be removed and moved on the =
cylinder to make a key work.

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The other lock cylinders are similar and can be removed for inspection.

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Ron Fraser

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From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net =
Tigers
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2024 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] exchange door locking devices

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"Can anyone recommend a topnotch Sunbeam lock and key person?"

Sunbeam specific..., likely they are all under the soil in the mother =
country by now. However there are probably a craftsmen or two out there =
- somewhere. Hopefully some knows.

While some may consider this barbaric I have done the following out of =
necessity. Locks typically have either pins or wafers.

Pins: I will insert the key and play around with the pins until I find =
those that come flush with the rotating tumbler. Sometimes pins can be =
doubled up to meet that height. Other times I have filed pins to meet =
that height.  Generally there are also non-rotating, opposing pins in =
the housing. Any tumbler pin that doesn't come flush I leave it and its =
opposing pin out. While this lessens the strength of the lock to =
rotation it still offers a degree of a locking effect (better than =
nothing).

Wafers: I find them easier. I will juggle them around so that with the =
key inserted there is the least degree of wafer height outside the =
tumbler. Then whatever remains outside the tumbler circumference I file =
off. Again, this lessens the strength of the lock to rotation but still =
offers a degree of a locking effect.

So, if all else fails.., this is at least a functional option and given =
that historically locking was not a primary consideration you would gain =
something even if not full strength. The free spinning lock seems like =
it has no pins or wafers. The key that jams I'm not sure if you mean on =
insertion, or once inserted it wouldn't rotate. That could be =
corrosion/dirt or just the wrong key for the pin/wafer configuration.


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link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3DWordSection1><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Found this link for sunbeam locks.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"https://forum.sunbeamalpine.org/index.php?threads/sunbeam-alpine-=
tiger-rebuilding-and-re-fitting-door-handles-and-locks.29310/"><span =
style=3D'color:blue'>Sunbeam Alpine &amp; Tiger: Rebuilding and =
re-fitting door handles and locks. | SAOCA =
Forum</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Maybe it =
will help.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Ron =
Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tigers =
&lt;tigers-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron =
Fraser<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 24, 2024 10:18 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
'Tom Witt' &lt;atwittsend@verizon.net&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> =
tigers@Autox.Team.Net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] exchange door =
locking devices<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Here is a =
picture of an ignition switch lock cylinder and key.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>With the key inserted everything is flush with the =
lock cylinder so it will turn.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Pins =
or wafers are spring loaded, they can be removed and moved on the =
cylinder to make a key work.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>The other =
lock cylinders are similar and can be removed for =
inspection.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tigers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net";>tigers-bounces@autox.team.n=
et</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Witt via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> =
Wednesday, October 23, 2024 4:09 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Sub=
ject:</b> Re: [Tigers] exchange door locking =
devices<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p><i>&quot;Can anyone recommend =
a topnotch Sunbeam lock and key =
person?&quot;</i><o:p></o:p></p><p>Sunbeam specific..., likely they are =
all under the soil in the mother country by now.<i> </i>However there =
are probably a craftsmen or two out there - somewhere<i>. </i>Hopefully =
some knows.<o:p></o:p></p><p>While some may consider this barbaric I =
have done the following out of necessity. Locks typically have either =
pins or wafers.<o:p></o:p></p><p>Pins:<i> </i>I will insert the key and =
play around with the pins until I find those that come flush with the =
rotating tumbler. Sometimes pins can be doubled up to meet that height. =
Other times I have filed pins to meet that height.&nbsp; Generally there =
are also non-rotating, opposing pins in the housing. Any tumbler pin =
that doesn't come flush I leave it and its opposing pin out. While this =
lessens the strength of the lock to rotation it still offers a degree of =
a locking effect (better than nothing).<o:p></o:p></p><p>Wafers: I find =
them easier. I will juggle them around so that with the key inserted =
there is the least degree of wafer height outside the tumbler. Then =
whatever remains outside the tumbler circumference I file off. Again, =
this lessens the strength of the lock to rotation but still offers a =
degree of a locking effect.<o:p></o:p></p><p>So, if all else fails.., =
this is at least a functional option and given that historically locking =
was not a primary consideration you would gain something even if not =
full strength. The free spinning lock seems like it has no pins or =
wafers. The key that jams I'm not sure if you mean on insertion, or once =
inserted it wouldn't rotate. That could be corrosion/dirt or just the =
wrong key for the pin/wafer =
configuration.<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>
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