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Dave Hall has lot of lock info and has had write ups in the review
On Thu, Oct 24, 2024, 10:32=E2=80=AFAM Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com> wr=
ote:
> Here is a picture of an ignition switch lock cylinder and key.
>
> With the key inserted everything is flush with the lock cylinder so it
> will turn.
>
> Pins or wafers are spring loaded, they can be removed and moved on the
> cylinder to make a key work.
>
>
>
> The other lock cylinders are similar and can be removed for inspection.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Tom Witt
> via Tigers
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 23, 2024 4:09 PM
> *To:* tigers@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] exchange door locking devices
>
>
>
> *"Can anyone recommend a topnotch Sunbeam lock and key person?"*
>
> Sunbeam specific..., likely they are all under the soil in the mother
> country by now. However there are probably a craftsmen or two out there -
> somewhere*. *Hopefully some knows.
>
> While some may consider this barbaric I have done the following out of
> necessity. Locks typically have either pins or wafers.
>
> Pins: I will insert the key and play around with the pins until I find
> those that come flush with the rotating tumbler. Sometimes pins can be
> doubled up to meet that height. Other times I have filed pins to meet tha=
t
> height. Generally there are also non-rotating, opposing pins in the
> housing. Any tumbler pin that doesn't come flush I leave it and its
> opposing pin out. While this lessens the strength of the lock to rotation
> it still offers a degree of a locking effect (better than nothing).
>
> Wafers: I find them easier. I will juggle them around so that with the ke=
y
> inserted there is the least degree of wafer height outside the tumbler.
> Then whatever remains outside the tumbler circumference I file off. Again=
,
> this lessens the strength of the lock to rotation but still offers a degr=
ee
> of a locking effect.
>
> So, if all else fails.., this is at least a functional option and given
> that historically locking was not a primary consideration you would gain
> something even if not full strength. The free spinning lock seems like it
> has no pins or wafers. The key that jams I'm not sure if you mean on
> insertion, or once inserted it wouldn't rotate. That could be
> corrosion/dirt or just the wrong key for the pin/wafer configuration.
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<p dir=3D"ltr">Dave Hall has lot of lock info and has had write ups in the =
review</p>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu=
, Oct 24, 2024, 10:32=E2=80=AFAM Ron Fraser <<a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@b=
luefrog.com">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"><div c=
lass=3D"m_6772666569837600944WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Here is a=
picture of an ignition switch lock cylinder and key.<u></u><u></u></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal">With the key inserted everything is flush with the lock =
cylinder so it will turn.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Pins or w=
afers are spring loaded, they can be removed and moved on the cylinder to m=
ake a key work.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">The other lock cylinders are similar and can be=
removed for inspection.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ron Fraser<u></u><u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div style=3D"border:none;borde=
r-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><b>From:</b> Tigers <<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net"; t=
arget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <=
b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Witt via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 2=
3, 2024 4:09 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; targ=
et=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</=
b> Re: [Tigers] exchange door locking devices<u></u><u></u></p></div></div>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p><i>"Can anyone recom=
mend a topnotch Sunbeam lock and key person?"</i><u></u><u></u></p><p>=
Sunbeam specific..., likely they are all under the soil in the mother count=
ry by now.<i> </i>However there are probably a craftsmen or two out there -=
somewhere<i>. </i>Hopefully some knows.<u></u><u></u></p><p>While some may=
consider this barbaric I have done the following out of necessity. Locks t=
ypically have either pins or wafers.<u></u><u></u></p><p>Pins:<i> </i>I wil=
l insert the key and play around with the pins until I find those that come=
flush with the rotating tumbler. Sometimes pins can be doubled up to meet =
that height. Other times I have filed pins to meet that height.=C2=A0 Gener=
ally there are also non-rotating, opposing pins in the housing. Any tumbler=
pin that doesn't come flush I leave it and its opposing pin out. While=
this lessens the strength of the lock to rotation it still offers a degree=
of a locking effect (better than nothing).<u></u><u></u></p><p>Wafers: I f=
ind them easier. I will juggle them around so that with the key inserted th=
ere is the least degree of wafer height outside the tumbler. Then whatever =
remains outside the tumbler circumference I file off. Again, this lessens t=
he strength of the lock to rotation but still offers a degree of a locking =
effect.<u></u><u></u></p><p>So, if all else fails.., this is at least a fun=
ctional option and given that historically locking was not a primary consid=
eration you would gain something even if not full strength. The free spinni=
ng lock seems like it has no pins or wafers. The key that jams I'm not =
sure if you mean on insertion, or once inserted it wouldn't rotate. Tha=
t could be corrosion/dirt or just the wrong key for the pin/wafer configura=
tion.<u></u><u></u></p></div></div>________________________________________=
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