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My 1/4 Dewalt brushless impact will not remove the lugs from most of my
vehicles. It works on the '76 Spitfire, but nothing else. I have been
lusting after one of the bigger 1/2" Dewalt impact drivers, but can't
justify the cost when I have literally half a dozen 1/2" air impact drivers
in the drawer. Maybe one day....
On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 11:36 AM Paul Parkanzky <parkanzky@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 12:23 PM Karl Vacek <stearman809@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Power is incredible. The impact won't take off lug nuts, but then I
>> haven't actually tried. I'm sure (once I buy one) the 1/2" will beat the
>> pants off my disappointing HF Earthquake 1/2" impact.
>>
>
> You'd be surprised. The 1/4" impacts make 100-120 lb-ft of torque. So
> they'll remove lug nuts on most cars if they haven't been over-torqued or
> on there forever. They won't break them free on my 3/4-ton truck or
> anything like that. But my friend has the 1/2" high-torque impact gun
> and... 1400 lb-ft of removal torque. We call it "The middle finger of God"
> because when you put it on a fastner and set the torque to "all of it" then
> _something_ is going to give.
>
>
>> Close to a religious experience. Highly recommended.
>>
>
> Agreed. I've been a Bosch cordless guy for years but Milwaukee if
> light-years ahead right now and I'll have a bench covered with red cordless
> tools when I set my new shop up this summer.
>
> -Paul
>
>
>> On January 11, 2021 10:45:30 AM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Others have said it, but I'll reiterate: Pick a battery/voltage, then
>>> acquire the tools that go with it. If you get a cordless drill, eventually
>>> you'll want a cordless impact 'wrench'--for lug nuts if nothing else--a
>>> 'sawzall' (equivalent), a circular saw, etc. Buy a combo kit, with a
>>> battery and charger included, to start.
>>>
>>> I went with DeWalt 20V 'XR' brushless, because of mostly positive
>>> reviews and, whether it's merit or good product placement by the marketeers
>>> (probably both), they seem to be the most popular among the mechanics,
>>> farmers, etc. on the quasi-reality TV shows (Stihl gets the nod for gas
>>> chainsaws, with Husqvarna second). I bought a cordless DeWalt hedger,
>>> slightly discounted because it was a display model, thinking "Sure, it'll
>>> do a couple bushes then quit," but we did my mom's whole (large) backyard
>>> on a single 4Ah battery. The tool that drains the battery fastest is my
>>> 4&1/2" angle grinder/sander/wirebrusher, probably because it runs more
>>> continuously and has an 'open circuit' load; I get about 20mins on a 4Ah
>>> battery.
>>>
>>> I have a full complement of pneumatic and corded electric tools--many
>>> are Harbor Freight, for occasional use--that are mostly collecting dust
>>> these days; it's just not worth unraveling an extension cord or firing up
>>> the compressor for a quick, one-off job . One of my faves is an old Makita
>>> 9V driver/drill, which can't hold a candle for power to the DeWalt--and
>>> replacement Chinese batteries are hit-or-miss--but it keeps soldiering-on.
>>> Makita stuff is top-notch, but I haven't seen the variety of tools--doesn't
>>> mean they don't have them--that DeWalt, Milwaukee, etc. have on display.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>> On 1/11/2021 5:38 AM, Tim . wrote:
>>>
>>> I didn't say I was going to spend 320. I said "if necessary".
>>>
>>> I already have a mitre saw. In fact, I have a full shop including
>>> 80-gallon compressor, blast cabinet, parts washer, panel beating tools, and
>>> a boat load of hand tools.
>>>
>>> I simply want the best cordless drill/screw driver out there. My
>>> experience with ryobi is that they don't hold up to even how much I use
>>> them.
>>>
>>> tim
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* John T. Blair <jblair1948@cox.net> <jblair1948@cox.net>
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:09 PM
>>> *To:* Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com>
>>> <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Shop-talk] Cordless drill/screw driver
>>>
>>> At 10:58 AM 1/10/2021, Tim wrote:
>>>
>>> >I have a $100 menards rebate check and a $60 rebate visa card that are
>>> both
>>> >burning a hole in my pocket. Also, I have the 15% "anything you can fit
>>> in the
>>> >bag" sale bag. I figure $160 is a good starting point and am willing to
>>> at least
>>> >match that 160 or more if necessary to get the best out there right
>>> now.
>>>
>>> ......
>>>
>>> >I am not worried about a little heavier than most as I am not
>>> contractor and this
>>> >won't get used every day. I am just getting tired of dragging cords.
>>> I'd like
>>> >whatever I get to be the start of going all cordless (skill saw,
>>> Sawzall, etc).
>>>
>>> Tim,
>>>
>>> If you are not going to be using it every day, why do you want to spend
>>> a ton of
>>> money on a cordless drill. You say you have $160 burning a hole in your
>>> pocket
>>> and are willing to put another $160 to that. Man that $320!!!! You can
>>> get a
>>> Roybi or such for say $100. Usually around Xmas which you just missed,
>>> you can
>>> get a Roybi kit with a drill, saw, and another tool for less than $150.
>>> That's where
>>> I'd put the first $160. Then I'd look at something else like a sliding
>>> compound
>>> miter saw, or a nail gun or two, or some other tools.
>>>
>>> Now that being said, let me say I buy a lot of Harbor Freight tools.
>>> And for the
>>> occassional use they work well. I have a $25 ish oscillating saw, which
>>> I've used
>>> for something over 5 yrs. It just died in the middle of a remodel in a
>>> bedroom.
>>> So I bought another. Especially if you don't know what you're going to
>>> use it for.
>>> I also have a cheap $20 H.F. recriprocating saw that has paid for it's
>>> self. If I'd
>>> have bought a $100 to $300 version of either of these tools, I'd never
>>> had really
>>> gotten my money worth out of the tool. I'm 72 and it's getting harder
>>> and harder
>>> every day for me to do a lot of the things I used to do, like bend over.
>>> :) So why
>>> should I pay for a tool that would last me for the next 30 years or so,
>>> if I'm only
>>> going to be around for another 10 years?
>>>
>>> Spend a little less money on a tool, and get more of them. Especially
>>> if it not your
>>> bread and butter.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>> 2
>>>
>>>
>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">My 1/4 Dewalt brushless impact will not remove the lugs fr=
om most of my vehicles.=C2=A0 It works on the '76 Spitfire, but nothing=
else.=C2=A0 I have been lusting after one of the bigger 1/2" Dewalt i=
mpact drivers, but can't justify the cost when I have literally half a =
dozen 1/2" air impact drivers in the drawer.=C2=A0 Maybe one day....<b=
r></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr=
">On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 11:36 AM Paul Parkanzky <<a href=3D"mailto:par=
kanzky@gmail.com">parkanzky@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px soli=
d rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">On M=
on, Jan 11, 2021 at 12:23 PM Karl Vacek <<a href=3D"mailto:stearman809@g=
mail.com" target=3D"_blank">stearman809@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"=
><div><div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto">Power is incredible.=C2=A0 The im=
pact won't take off lug nuts, but then I haven't actually tried.=C2=
=A0 I'm sure (once I buy one) the 1/2" will beat the pants off my =
disappointing HF Earthquake 1/2" impact.</div></div></div></blockquote=
><div><br></div><div>You'd be surprised. The 1/4" impacts make 100=
-120 lb-ft of torque. So they'll remove lug nuts on most cars if they h=
aven't been over-torqued or on there forever. They won't break them=
free on my 3/4-ton truck or anything like that. But my friend has the 1/2&=
quot; high-torque impact gun and... 1400 lb-ft of removal torque. We call i=
t "The middle finger of God" because when you put it on a fastner=
and set the torque to "all of it" then _something_ is going to g=
ive.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex=
"><div><div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto"></div><div dir=3D"auto">Close to=
a religious experience. Highly recommended.=C2=A0</div></div></div></block=
quote><div><br></div><div>Agreed. I've been a Bosch cordless guy for ye=
ars but Milwaukee if light-years ahead right now and I'll have a bench =
covered with red cordless tools when I set my new shop up this summer.</div=
><div><br></div><div>-Paul</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(2=
04,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto"></di=
v>
<div id=3D"gmail-m_-7233634556038830084gmail-m_5371445377468044316aqm-origi=
nal" style=3D"color:black">
<div>
<div style=3D"color:black">
<p style=3D"color:black;font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;margin:8pt 0p=
x">On January 11, 2021 10:45:30 AM Bob Spidell <<a href=3D"mailto:bspide=
ll@comcast.net" target=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>> wrote:</p>
<blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px=
0.75ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(128,128,128);padding-left:0.75ex">
Others have said it, but I'll reiterate: Pick a battery/voltage,
then acquire the tools that go with it. If you get a cordless drill,
eventually you'll want a cordless impact 'wrench'--for lug =
nuts if
nothing else--a 'sawzall'=C2=A0 (equivalent), a circular saw, e=
tc. Buy a
combo kit, with a battery and charger included, to start.<br>
<br>
I went with DeWalt 20V 'XR' brushless, because of mostly positi=
ve
reviews and, whether it's merit or good product placement by the
marketeers (probably both), they seem to be the most popular among
the mechanics, farmers, etc. on the quasi-reality TV shows (Stihl
gets the nod for gas chainsaws, with Husqvarna second). I bought a
cordless DeWalt hedger, slightly discounted because it was a display
model, thinking "Sure, it'll do a couple bushes then quit,&quo=
t; but we
did my mom's whole (large) backyard on a single 4Ah battery. The
tool that drains the battery fastest is my 4&1/2" angle
grinder/sander/wirebrusher, probably because it runs more
continuously and has an 'open circuit' load; I get about 20mins=
on a
4Ah battery.<br>
<br>
I have a full complement of pneumatic and corded electric
tools--many are Harbor Freight, for occasional use--that are mostly
collecting dust these days; it's just not worth unraveling an
extension cord or firing up the compressor for a quick, one-off job
. One of my faves is an old Makita 9V driver/drill, which can't hol=
d
a candle for power to the DeWalt--and replacement Chinese batteries
are hit-or-miss--but it keeps soldiering-on. Makita stuff is
top-notch, but I haven't seen the variety of tools--doesn't mea=
n
they don't have them--that DeWalt, Milwaukee, etc. have on display.=
<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
<div>On 1/11/2021 5:38 AM, Tim . wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
=20
=20
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt=
;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
I didn't say I was going to spend 320. I said "if necessar=
y".=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt=
;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt=
;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
I already have a mitre saw. In fact, I have a full shop
including 80-gallon compressor, blast cabinet, parts washer,
panel beating tools, and a boat load of hand tools.=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt=
;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt=
;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
I simply want the best cordless drill/screw driver out there. My
experience with ryobi is that they don't hold up to even how
much I use them.=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt=
;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt=
;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
tim</div>
<div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12=
pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
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<div id=3D"gmail-m_-7233634556038830084gmail-m_5371445377468044316d=
ivRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;col=
or:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>From:</b> John
T. Blair <a href=3D"mailto:jblair1948@cox.net"; target=3D"_blank=
"><jblair1948@cox.net></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tim . <a href=3D"mailto:tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.co=
m" target=3D"_blank"><tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] Cordless drill/screw driver</sp=
an>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">At 10:58 AM 1/10/2021, Tim wrot=
e:<br>
<br>
>I have a $100 menards rebate check and a $60 rebate visa
card that are both <br>
>burning a hole in my pocket. Also, I have the 15%
"anything you can fit in the <br>
>bag" sale bag. I figure $160 is a good starting point
and am willing to at least
<br>
>match that 160 or more if necessary to get the best out
there right now. <br>
<br>
......<br>
<br>
>I am not worried about a little heavier than most as I
am not contractor and this
<br>
>won't get used every day. I am just getting tired of
dragging cords. I'd like <br>
>whatever I get to be the start of going all cordless
(skill saw, Sawzall, etc).<br>
<br>
Tim,<br>
<br>
If you are not going to be using it every day, why do you
want to spend a ton of<br>
money on a cordless drill.=C2=A0 You say you have $160 burning =
a
hole in your pocket<br>
and are willing to put another $160 to that.=C2=A0 Man that
$320!!!!=C2=A0 You can get a <br>
Roybi or such for say $100.=C2=A0 Usually around Xmas which you
just missed, you can<br>
get a Roybi kit with a drill, saw, and another tool for less
than $150.=C2=A0 That's where<br>
I'd put the first $160.=C2=A0 Then I'd look at somethin=
g else
like a sliding compound <br>
miter saw, or a nail gun or two, or some other tools.<br>
<br>
Now that being said, let me say I buy a lot of Harbor
Freight tools.=C2=A0 And for the<br>
occassional use they work well.=C2=A0 I have a $25 ish
oscillating saw, which I've used
<br>
for something over 5 yrs.=C2=A0 It just died in the middle of a
remodel in a bedroom.<br>
So I bought another.=C2=A0 Especially if you don't know wha=
t
you're going to use it for.<br>
I also have a cheap $20 H.F. recriprocating saw that has
paid for it's self.=C2=A0 If I'd<br>
have bought a $100 to $300 version of either of these tools,
I'd never had really<br>
gotten my money worth out of the tool.=C2=A0 I'm 72 and it&=
#39;s
getting harder and harder<br>
every day for me to do a lot of the things I used to do,
like bend over. :)=C2=A0 So why<br>
should I pay for a tool that would last me for the next 30
years or so, if I'm only<br>
going to be around for another 10 years?<br>
<br>
Spend a little less money on a tool, and get more of them.=C2=
=A0
Especially if it not your<br>
bread and butter.<br>
<br>
John<br>
<br>
<br>
=C2=A02<br>
</span><br>
</div>
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