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I have to agree. My 2005 Colorado has a cheapo plastic "funnel" on top
of the frame, under the filter, and it catches about 75% of the spill.
The filter is almost horizontal, too! I did have a Ford wagon once
where the sump drain was on a corner, but reachable from above. Handy.
Mike
On 1/4/2021 5:14 AM, eric@megageek.com wrote:
> OK, this is half vent and half "can someone explain why the heck do
> they do this to us?"
>
> I notice that just about EVERY modern's car drain plug drains
> horizontally and not vertically (where the plug come straight down
> from the bottom of the oil pan.) This make's oil changes SO much
> harder and messier.
>
> Then, I've even seen (2018 Ford F150) where it has a frame rail right
> in front of the oil hole and it splashes the nearly 2 GALLONS of oil
> everywhere. Then, the oil filter has a 'slide' under it to redirect
> the oil to the front of the frame, which is nice, EXCEPT that it
> doesn't go all the way back to under the oil filter! This means that
> some oil drips under the oil filter while more drips in front of the
> frame rail about 2 feet away (meaning no single oil pan can catch
> both.) I'm seeing this in more and more cars that have stupid oil
> drains.
>
> Now I get that engines are sometime designed in a vacuum and the frame
> builders don't care what is in the way, but it just seems that for
> optimal oil changes, a plug should be at the bottom of the pan. With
> all the environmental concerns, I would also imagine that any way to
> prevent oil spills and splashes would be ideal.
>
> Can anyone explain this? Or is it just a case of designers really
> HATE mechanics?
>
>
> "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a
> rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your
> territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson
> -Who is John Galt?
>
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<p><font face="Tahoma">I have to agree. My 2005 Colorado has a
cheapo plastic "funnel" on top of the frame, under the filter,
and it catches about 75% of the spill. The filter is almost
horizontal, too! I did have a Ford wagon once where the sump
drain was on a corner, but reachable from above. Handy.</font></p>
<p><font face="Tahoma">Mike</font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/4/2021 5:14 AM, <a
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href="mailto:eric@megageek.com";>eric@megageek.com</a>
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<font size="2" face="sans-serif">OK, this is half vent and half
"can
someone explain why the heck do they do this to us?"</font>
<br>
<br>
<font size="2" face="sans-serif">I notice that just about EVERY
modern's
car drain plug drains horizontally and not vertically (where the
plug come
straight down from the bottom of the oil pan.) This make's oil
changes
SO much harder and messier.</font>
<br>
<br>
<font size="2" face="sans-serif">Then, I've even seen (2018 Ford
F150)
where it has a frame rail right in front of the oil hole and it
splashes
the nearly 2 GALLONS of oil everywhere. Then, the oil filter
has
a 'slide' under it to redirect the oil to the front of the
frame, which
is nice, EXCEPT that it doesn't go all the way back to under the
oil filter!
This means that some oil drips under the oil filter while more
drips
in front of the frame rail about 2 feet away (meaning no single
oil pan
can catch both.) I'm seeing this in more and more cars that
have
stupid oil drains.</font>
<br>
<br>
<font size="2" face="sans-serif">Now I get that engines are
sometime
designed in a vacuum and the frame builders don't care what is
in the way,
but it just seems that for optimal oil changes, a plug should be
at the
bottom of the pan. With all the environmental concerns, I would
also
imagine that any way to prevent oil spills and splashes would be
ideal.</font>
<br>
<br>
<font size="2" face="sans-serif">Can anyone explain this? Or is
it just a case of designers really HATE mechanics?</font>
<br>
<font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br>
<br>
"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a
rational
being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory."
Ralph
Waldo Emerson <br>
-Who is John Galt?</font>
<br>
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