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Re: [Shop-talk] Using RTV gasket maker

To: Robert Nogueirao <nogera@icloud.com>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Using RTV gasket maker
From: John Innis <jdinnis@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 08:17:22 -0600
Cc: Shop Talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
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I have a very specific procedure for paper gaskets that I was taught by my
father (a mechanic and shop teacher).  It has always worked well for me.
First, Clean the sealing surfaces and make sure they are smooth.  If you
use a wire brush on aluminum surfaces you are likely going to get some
scratches, clean it up with some 1500 grit sandpaper.  Next, I liberally
coat the gasket in oil.  The theory here is that the gasket is absorbent.
If you saturate it to start with it will not want to absorb any additional
oil or water from the thing you are trying to seal.  Next, it gets a thin
(and I do mean THIN) coating of RTV.  NOTE do not use HYLOMAR for this
application, you want an RTV that will set.  Wait a couple minutes for the
RTV to start to set then assemble and torque to sepc.  NOTE that in my
experience 90% of gasket failure is tied to improper torque values or
pattern.  Finally, WAIT.  Do not put the part into service until the RTV is
fully cured.  This step, above all else will prevent any excess RTV form
clogging up anything.  I have used this technique for more than 30 years
and never had a gasket leak.  YMMV.

On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 10:07 PM Robert Nogueirao <nogera@icloud.com> wrote=
:

> Seems like every video of someone working on an engine has them using RTV
> gasket maker with a paper gasket, yet buried in the manufactures literatu=
re
> it specifically says not to use it to hold a paper gasket in place.
> I=E2=80=99ll admit I=E2=80=99ve done it and haven=E2=80=99t had any probl=
ems.
> What says the group, what do you use on gaskets?
> Bob Nogueira
>
> PS: and yes I=E2=80=99m aware of the =E2=80=9C globs=E2=80=9D problem of =
fouling the oil pump
> screen. I use a thin coat placed closer to the outside edge.
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I have a very specific procedure for paper gaskets that I =
was taught by my father (a mechanic and shop teacher).=C2=A0 It has always =
worked well for me.=C2=A0 First, Clean the sealing surfaces and make sure t=
hey are smooth.=C2=A0 If you use a wire brush on aluminum surfaces you are =
likely going to get some scratches, clean it up with some 1500 grit sandpap=
er.=C2=A0 Next, I liberally coat the gasket in oil.=C2=A0 The theory here i=
s that the gasket is absorbent.=C2=A0 If you saturate it to start with it w=
ill not want to absorb any additional oil or water from the thing you are t=
rying to seal.=C2=A0 Next, it gets a thin (and I do mean THIN) coating of R=
TV.=C2=A0 NOTE do not use HYLOMAR for this application, you want an RTV tha=
t will set.=C2=A0 Wait a couple minutes for the RTV to start to set then as=
semble and torque to sepc.=C2=A0 NOTE that in my experience 90% of gasket f=
ailure is tied to improper torque values or pattern.=C2=A0 Finally, WAIT.=
=C2=A0 Do not put the part into service until the RTV is fully cured.=C2=A0=
 This step, above all else will prevent any excess RTV form clogging up any=
thing.=C2=A0 I have used this technique for more than 30 years and never ha=
d a gasket leak.=C2=A0 YMMV.<br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 10:07 PM Robert Nog=
ueirao &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nogera@icloud.com";>nogera@icloud.com</a>&gt; w=
rote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0p=
x 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Seems like=
 every video of someone working on an engine has them using RTV gasket make=
r with a paper gasket, yet buried in the manufactures literature it specifi=
cally says not to use it to hold a paper gasket in place.=C2=A0 <br>
I=E2=80=99ll admit I=E2=80=99ve done it and haven=E2=80=99t had any problem=
s. <br>
What says the group, what do you use on gaskets?<br>
Bob Nogueira<br>
<br>
PS: and yes I=E2=80=99m aware of the =E2=80=9C globs=E2=80=9D problem of fo=
uling the oil pump screen. I use a thin coat placed closer to the outside e=
dge.<br>
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