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Re: [Shop-talk] attic fan switches (does this exist?)

To: eric@megageek.com
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] attic fan switches (does this exist?)
From: John Innis <jdinnis@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 07:56:42 -0500
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Yep lots of ways to do this.  If you want it really user-friendly (but
maybe not 100% reliable) go insteon.  Get the smart hub a temps sensor a
relay module and a wireless remote.  Set up a custom program to turn on the
fan at a pre-set temperature.  Then set up a manual program to turn the fan
on/off with the wireless remote.  Then spend the next several years not
being able to find the remote when you need it.
Personally, I would do this using an Arduino, a wireless remote module and
a temp sensor.  Even if you have never worked with this stuff, it is pretty
easy to learn.  It requires some wiring and some coding, but there are
plenty of tutorials online to get you started.  My favorite site for this
is adafruit.com
I would get something like this https://www.adafruit.com/product/393 for a
temp sensor.  And use a tutorial like this guide (the arduino part) to read
temperature:  https://learn.adafruit.com/dht then get something like this
https://www.amazon.com/INKBIRD-Solid-State-SSR-40DA-24-380V/dp/B00HV974KC/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=solid+state+relay&qid=1596113629&sr=8-3
for a relay to control the fan and something like this:
https://www.adafruit.com/product/1096 for a wireless remote.

If you prefer python to C then look at the CircuitPython stuff on
adafruit's web site.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 7:34 AM <eric@megageek.com> wrote:

> I have an attic fan that is on a thermostatic switch.
>
> I was wondering if there was a way that I can have it on a  thermostatic
> switch AND a remote switch (like X-10)
>
> What happens is that  I want to turn on the fan on some nights or days,
> but it isn't hot enough to trigger it to go off.  If I reduce the
> temperature setting, it stays on most on the time.
>
> But I do want it to go on if it gets too hot when I'm not home.
>
> Is there anything like this on the market?  I also couldn't figure out how
> to wire 2 separate switches safely to accomplish this.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mule
>
> "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational
> being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph
> Waldo Emerson
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Yep lots of ways to do this.=C2=A0 If you want it rea=
lly user-friendly (but maybe not 100% reliable) go insteon.=C2=A0 Get the s=
mart hub a temps sensor a relay module and a wireless remote.=C2=A0 Set up =
a custom program to turn on the fan at a pre-set temperature.=C2=A0 Then se=
t up a manual program to turn the fan on/off with the wireless remote.=C2=
=A0 Then spend the next several years not being able to find the remote whe=
n you need it. <br></div><div>Personally, I would do this using an Arduino,=
 a wireless remote module and a temp sensor.=C2=A0 Even if you have never w=
orked with this stuff, it is pretty easy to learn.=C2=A0 It requires some w=
iring and some coding, but there are plenty of tutorials online to get you =
started.=C2=A0 My favorite site for this is <a href=3D"http://adafruit.com"=
>adafruit.com</a></div><div>I would get something like this=C2=A0<a href=3D=
"https://www.adafruit.com/product/393";>https://www.adafruit.com/product/393=
</a> for a temp sensor.=C2=A0 And use a tutorial like this guide (the ardui=
no part) to read temperature:=C2=A0 <a href=3D"https://learn.adafruit.com/d=
ht">https://learn.adafruit.com/dht</a> then get something like this <a href=
=3D"https://www.amazon.com/INKBIRD-Solid-State-SSR-40DA-24-380V/dp/B00HV974=
KC/ref=3Dsr_1_3?dchild=3D1&amp;keywords=3Dsolid+state+relay&amp;qid=3D15961=
13629&amp;sr=3D8-3">https://www.amazon.com/INKBIRD-Solid-State-SSR-40DA-24-=
380V/dp/B00HV974KC/ref=3Dsr_1_3?dchild=3D1&amp;keywords=3Dsolid+state+relay=
&amp;qid=3D1596113629&amp;sr=3D8-3</a> for a relay to control the fan and s=
omething like this: <a href=3D"https://www.adafruit.com/product/1096";>https=
://www.adafruit.com/product/1096</a> for a wireless remote.</div><div><br><=
/div><div>If you prefer python to C then look at the CircuitPython stuff on=
 adafruit&#39;s web site.=C2=A0 <br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 7:34 AM &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eric@megageek.com";>eric@megageek.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;=
border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font size=3D"2" f=
ace=3D"sans-serif">I have an attic fan that is on a thermostatic
switch.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I was wondering if there was a way=
 that
I can have it on a =C2=A0thermostatic switch AND a remote switch (like
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">What happens is that =C2=A0I want =
to
turn on the fan on some nights or days, but it isn&#39;t hot enough to trig=
ger
it to go off.=C2=A0 If I reduce the temperature setting, it stays on most
on the time.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">But I do want it to go on if it ge=
ts
too hot when I&#39;m not home.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Is there anything like this on the=
 market?
=C2=A0I also couldn&#39;t figure out how to wire 2 separate switches safely
to accomplish this.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Any ideas?</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
Thanks.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Mule<br>
<br>
&quot;Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a ratio=
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being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory.&quot; Ralph
Waldo Emerson <br>
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