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Re: [Shop-talk] Re-wiring an outdoor outlet

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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Re-wiring an outdoor outlet
From: Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 15:53:54 -0400
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Pat said he's put an in-use cover.  I'd add that the NEC requires an
in-use cover in this spot, and it's just smart to do it anyway.  John
said mount it on a 4x4, that's probably easiest, unless you are going
for aesthetics, in which case the cast rock may be an option.  You
could also get one of those fake rocks that goes over a well pump and
mount it in that somehow.

Pull new wires, make sure there's GFCI protection, and rock on!


On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 3:05 PM Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com> wrote:
>
> Scott,
>
> Several thoughts. There needs to be a GFCI Function on any outside circuit. 
> It could be a GFCI breaker in a panel or a GFCI outlet.
>
> I would get a GFCI outlet tester to see If the circuit has the GFCI 
> functionality somewhere. Itâ??s redundant to have a GFCI outlet & breaker on 
> the same circuit.
>
> Since this outlet doesnâ??t seem to be up to code Iâ??d question whether the 
> sub panel was installed to code also. If it isnâ??t a real sub panel, but 
> rather just a disconnect there may be something farther back in the system 
> that is supplying the GFCI function, either a GFCI breaker in another panel 
> or a GFCI outlet in the garage or a bathroom.
>
> As for replacing the outlet/cutting the PVC, yes it can be done on the 
> straight conduct. If it were me, Iâ??d cut the conduit back to a straight 
> part and then complete the conduit with a flexible conduit like what is used 
> on an A/C unit. That way Iâ??d the outlet gets hit or stressed it wonâ??t 
> break like your old one. Iâ??d also install an in use cover on the Outlet box 
> so that it Will still be water resistant when something is plugged into it.
>
> Iâ??d be happy to discuss this further with you if desired.
>
> Peace,
> Pat
>
> Pat Horne
> We support Habitat for Humanity
>
>
> On Jul 10, 2020, at 1:45 PM, Scott Hall <scott.hall.personal@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
> I have this:
>
> https://i.imgur.com/QWy2Ikn.jpg
> https://i.imgur.com/s39fdds.jpg
>
> Happening at the new house. Those rocks surround the pool deck for 
> ornamentation, I guess.
>
> Shockingly (or not, heh), those outlets work. I'd like to re-do the whole 
> thing to be anchored into the ground and not make me nervous every time I 
> look at it.
>
> The pool is about eight feet away. Maybe two feet of that rock...'garden' 
> then six feet of concrete decking. Those outlets themselves don't appear to 
> be GFCI, though I'd think it was a good idea. They have their own sub-panel, 
> on the side of the house maybe forty feet away.
>
> I'm completely okay with throwing the breaker and installing a new actual 
> outlet, I'm soliciting advice on how to re-do that conduit (can you 'splice' 
> conduit so I dig and then do it like I'd do PVC?) and anchor the whole thing 
> firmly to the ground. And for specific solutions you guys can think of too--I 
> was thinking I could pour a concrete 'rock' in the garage with a hole for a 
> gang box and then put that where this thing is now, etc.
>
> Thanks guys.
>
> Scott
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