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Re: [Shop-talk] Resurecting a totaly dead battery ?

To: Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Resurecting a totaly dead battery ?
From: Jim Franklin <jamesf@groupwbench.org>
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2020 16:53:04 -0400
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I've heard of people putting EDTA into batteries, but I don't know if =
that was a fad or needs to work in conjunction with a charging regimen =
that no one wanted to follow.

jim

> On Jun 21, 2020, at 3:42 PM, Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate@gmail.com> =
wrote:
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> This reminds me of an older mechanic I worked with...His solution for =
batteries, in the days when you could take the caps off, was to short =
the terminals with a big heavy chunk of metal.  When it was fully =
discharged, he'd turn it upside down and rinse all the sediment out of =
the cells.  Then fill it with distilled water, and charge it back up.  =
I'm an engineer, not a chemist, so I don't understand exactly how this =
works, but I saw it work at least once to extend the life of a "dead" =
battery.
>=20
> On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 3:32 PM Jack Brooks <jibrooks@live.com =
> Yes  a battery tender or battery minder would be you best bet.  Leave =
it on there for at least a week.  You may need to boost it with a =
charger if it won't get started for to lie voltage, but that is your =
best bet for saving the battery=20
>=20
> I use a BatteryMinder, likely the same basic circuitry as the tender,. =
 I have brought back some really weak batteries, some that would barely =
crank the engine over by leaving them on that "pulse" cycle for a week =
or more and now they work great even in the cold winter months.  What =
they claim it does, is break down the sulfate growth between cells, =
which is what eventually kills the battery.
>=20
> I usually put every battery in the garage on it for a day or two a =
year as a precaution.  The dying batteries are still running strong.
>=20
> Jack
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charset=3Dus-ascii"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">I've =
heard of people putting EDTA into batteries, but I don't know if that =
was a fad or needs to work in conjunction with a charging regimen that =
no one wanted to follow.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">jim<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
 class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Jun 21, 2020, at 3:42 PM, Jeff Scarbrough =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fishplate@gmail.com"; =
class=3D"">fishplate@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"">This reminds me of an older mechanic I worked with...His =
solution for batteries, in the days when you could take the caps off, =
was to short the terminals with a big heavy chunk of metal.&nbsp; When =
it was fully discharged, he'd turn it upside down and rinse all the =
sediment out of the cells.&nbsp; Then fill it with distilled water, and =
charge it back up.&nbsp; I'm an engineer, not a chemist, so I don't =
understand exactly how this works, but I saw it work at least once to =
extend the life of a "dead" battery.</div><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun =
21, 2020 at 3:32 PM Jack Brooks &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jibrooks@live.com"; =
class=3D"">jibrooks@live.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br =
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font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;" class=3D"">
Yes&nbsp; a battery tender or battery minder would be you best =
bet.&nbsp; Leave it on there for at least a week.&nbsp; You may need to =
boost it with a charger if it won't get started for to lie voltage, but =
that is your best bet for saving the battery
<br class=3D"">
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"direction: ltr; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; =
font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;" class=3D"">
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<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"direction: ltr; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; =
font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; text-align: left;" class=3D"">
I use a BatteryMinder, likely the same basic circuitry as the =
tender,.&nbsp; I have brought back some really weak batteries, some that =
would barely crank the engine over by leaving them on that "pulse" cycle =
for a week or more and now they work great even in the
 cold winter months.&nbsp; What they claim it does, is break down the =
sulfate growth between cells, which is what eventually kills the =
battery.<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"direction: ltr; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; =
font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;" class=3D"">
I usually put every battery in the garage on it for a day or two a year =
as a precaution.&nbsp; The dying batteries are still running =
strong.</div>
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font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;" class=3D"">
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