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There are a few things to consider.
If a bear is your adversary, then a large caliber handgun is needed to get
the penetration to stop their advancement. .357 magnum, 10 mm or 44 magnum,
or a .30 caliber rifle or 12ga shotgun with slugs. Anything less just may
focus your adversary=E2=80=99s attention on you and really make them mad.
Where are you most likely to be located when a visitor would appear and
where would your firearm be? Are you back to the door working at a bench
or machine tool, under a car lift or on the floor on a creeper? Will you be
able to reach your firearm and access it before your visitor reaches you?
You don=E2=80=99t want them to corner you where you have no means of escape=
. Access
will determine the type of secure storage you=E2=80=99ll need. Carrying is =
fine if
you use a good quality holster with retention and trigger protection. Not
sure how you would present the gun on a creeper under a car though.
What direction would you most likely be firing? Towards your house or your
neighbors house? No matter what you chose to use, what=E2=80=99s behind you=
r
potential target is your 2nd, hitting your target is the first and biggest
headache.
Revolvers are fine and most can be had in stainless as well as shotguns
made for boating use. A lot of semi autos have stainless slides and
barrels. Yes, maintenance, cleaning and oiling will be necessary. Even
stainless firearms have carbon steel parts that need protected.
A can of bear spray may provide enough of a diversion for your visitor so
you can get out of harms way.
Hopefully you keep a cell phone or landline phone close, heaven forbid, you
have a run in and need help.
It may be safer to close the door and find another means of fresh air and
ventilation.
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 3:54 PM Paul Parkanzky via Shop-talk <
shop-talk@autox.team.net> wrote:
> I don't think a revolver is a poor choice but there's no way I'd store
> an expensive revolver like that in the garage.
>
> I agree with other commenters that say that if he doesn't have any
> intention of carrying the firearm that there's no reason to compromise
> with a handgun. I'd choose either a cheap AR-pattern rifle or an
> inexpensive shotgun in one of Hornady's rapidsafe wall mounts or a
> similar secured wall mount.
>
> -Paul
>
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:50 AM Thomas FitzGibbon via Shop-talk
> <shop-talk@autox.team.net> wrote:
> >
> > Eric,
> >
> > I second the stainless steel revolver recommendation, maybe a Colt
> Python in .357 magnum. I'd be concerned that a semi-auto would be more
> sensitive to that kind of environment, but either way it should not be to=
o
> challenging. Desiccant packs are going to be critical, especially to
> protect the ammo as the gun itself should be OK with a light coat of oil.
> >
> > Good luck.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > On March 29, 2020 at 8:38 PM Philip Ethier via Shop-talk <
> shop-talk@autox.team.net> wrote:
> >
> > I'd recommend a stainless double-action revolver, attached to your
> person in a holster designed to make it impossible for the cylinder to
> revolve until the weapon is removed from the holster.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 12:58 PM eric--- via Shop-talk <
> shop-talk@autox.team.net> wrote:
> >
> > Ok, I know I've asked some weird questions before, but I think this one
> will take the cake.
> >
> > I live out in the country, and often work well into the night with a
> large shop door open. With having bears, coyotes and other large animals
> in the area, I got to thinking, it might be a good idea to keep a pistol =
in
> the garage to scare off any would be 'late night snackers."
> > Actually, I had a run-in the other night that made me think about this.
> >
> > So my question is, if I have a pistol, in a rapid access safe in a shop
> environment, what factors should I consider? I understand that humidity
> will play a huge role, as will dust (I have to see how 'sealed' the safe
> is.)
> >
> > Is there anything I'm missing that I should consider? I understand tha=
t
> I will most likely have to clean the weapon often, but is there anything =
I
> need to think about?
> >
> > Also, I'm open to suggestions for a weapon type. I thinking an XD-M
> elite polymer hand gun. With mostly composite parts. Similar to a Glock=
.
> (Note, I don't have anything against Glock, I just never owned one. I do
> have and love my XD however, so Glock isn't out of consideration.)
> >
> > I don't want this to turn into a 2nd amendment thread. Just a 'what to
> consider' for leaving a pistol in a shop.
> >
> > Note, in my shop I do just about everything, metal work, wood work, car
> and heavy equipment work, etc.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,=
sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"m=
argin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:19.046px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Ther=
e are a few things to consider.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0=
in 0in 8pt;line-height:19.046px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">If a bear i=
s your adversary, then a large caliber handgun is needed to get the penetra=
tion to stop their advancement. .357 magnum, 10 mm or 44 magnum, or a .30 c=
aliber rifle or 12ga shotgun with slugs.=C2=A0 Anything less just may focus=
your adversary=E2=80=99s attention on you and really make them mad.</p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:19.046px;font-f=
amily:Calibri,sans-serif">Where are you most likely to be located when a vi=
sitor would appear and where would your firearm be?=C2=A0 Are you back to t=
he door working at a bench or machine tool, under a car lift or on the floo=
r on a creeper? Will you be able to reach your firearm and access it before=
your visitor reaches you? You don=E2=80=99t want them to corner you where =
you have no means of escape. Access will determine the type of secure stora=
ge you=E2=80=99ll need. Carrying is fine if you use a good quality holster =
with retention and trigger protection. Not sure how you would present the g=
un on a creeper under a car though.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"marg=
in:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:19.046px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">What di=
rection would you most likely be firing? Towards your house or your neighbo=
rs house? No matter what you chose to use, what=E2=80=99s behind your poten=
tial target is your 2<sup>nd</sup>, hitting your target is the first and bi=
ggest headache.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-=
height:19.046px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Revolvers are fine and most=
can be had in stainless as well as shotguns made for boating use. A lot of=
semi autos have stainless slides and barrels. Yes, maintenance, cleaning a=
nd oiling will be necessary. Even stainless firearms have carbon steel part=
s that need protected.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8p=
t;line-height:19.046px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">A can of bear spray =
may provide enough of a diversion for your visitor so you can get out of ha=
rms way.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:=
19.046px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Hopefully you keep a cell phone or=
landline phone close, heaven forbid, you have a run in and need help.</p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:19.046px;font=
-family:Calibri,sans-serif">It may be safer to close the door and find anot=
her means of fresh air and ventilation.</p></div></div><br><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 3:5=
4 PM Paul Parkanzky via Shop-talk <<a href=3D"mailto:shop-talk@autox.tea=
m.net">shop-talk@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I don't think a revolver is a poor cho=
ice but there's no way I'd store<br>
an expensive revolver like that in the garage.<br>
<br>
I agree with other commenters that say that if he doesn't have any<br>
intention of carrying the firearm that there's no reason to compromise<=
br>
with a handgun. I'd choose either a cheap AR-pattern rifle or an<br>
inexpensive shotgun in one of Hornady's rapidsafe wall mounts or a<br>
similar secured wall mount.<br>
<br>
-Paul<br>
<br>
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:50 AM Thomas FitzGibbon via Shop-talk<br>
<<a href=3D"mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">shop-talk=
@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Eric,<br>
><br>
> I second the stainless steel revolver recommendation, maybe a Colt Pyt=
hon in .357 magnum.=C2=A0 I'd be concerned that a semi-auto would be mo=
re sensitive to that kind of environment, but either way it should not be t=
oo challenging.=C2=A0 Desiccant packs are going to be critical, especially =
to protect the ammo as the gun itself should be OK with a light coat of oil=
.<br>
><br>
> Good luck.<br>
><br>
> Tom<br>
><br>
> On March 29, 2020 at 8:38 PM Philip Ethier via Shop-talk <<a href=
=3D"mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">shop-talk@autox.team=
.net</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> I'd recommend a stainless double-action revolver, attached to your=
person in a holster designed to make it impossible for the cylinder to rev=
olve until the weapon is removed from the holster.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 12:58 PM eric--- via Shop-talk < <a href=3D=
"mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">shop-talk@autox.team.ne=
t</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Ok, I know I've asked some weird questions before, but I think thi=
s one will take the cake.<br>
><br>
> I live out in the country, and often work well into the night with a l=
arge shop door open.=C2=A0 With having bears, coyotes and other large anima=
ls in the area, I got to thinking, it might be a good idea to keep a pistol=
in the garage to scare off any would be 'late night snackers."<br=
>
> Actually, I had a run-in the other night that made me think about this=
.<br>
><br>
> So my question is, if I have a pistol, in a rapid access safe in a sho=
p environment, what factors should I consider?=C2=A0 I understand that humi=
dity will play a huge role, as will dust (I have to see how 'sealed'=
; the safe is.)<br>
><br>
> Is there anything I'm missing that I should consider?=C2=A0 I unde=
rstand that I will most likely have to clean the weapon often, but is there=
anything I need to think about?<br>
><br>
> Also, I'm open to suggestions for a weapon type.=C2=A0 I thinking =
an XD-M elite polymer hand gun.=C2=A0 With mostly composite parts.=C2=A0 Si=
milar to a Glock.=C2=A0 (Note, I don't have anything against Glock, I j=
ust never owned one.=C2=A0 I do have and love my XD however, so Glock isn&#=
39;t out of consideration.)<br>
><br>
> I don't want this to turn into a 2nd amendment thread.=C2=A0 Just =
a 'what to consider' for leaving a pistol in a shop.<br>
><br>
> Note, in my shop I do just about everything, metal work, wood work, ca=
r and heavy equipment work, etc.<br>
><br>
> Thanks in advance.<br>
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