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Re: [Shop-talk] Air Hose Reel Rec

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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Air Hose Reel Rec
From: David Hillman <hillman@planet-torque.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 18:13:45 -0500 (EST)
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On Wed, 18 Feb 2015, Scott wrote:
> I'd never recommend PVC lines, but I've spent a lot of time around them. The 
> one time one blew, it didn't spray the room with lethal shards.

    The last time I took a grinder to a piece of metal, a shard bounced 
harmlessly off my cheek.  Now I figure there's no reason to wear eye 
protection.

    It'd be one thing if it was just copper and steel pipe manufacturers 
telling everyone not to use PVC, since they'd have an obvious ulterior 
motive.  But every single maker of PVC pipe tells everyone not to use 
their product for compressed air ( in addition to OSHA and well, everybody 
else ).

<http://www.harvel.com/piping-systems/gf-harvel-pvc-industrial-pipe/schedule-40-80/temperature-derating>

    Just that chart alone should be enough to convince even the cheapest, 
most-safety-averse person that PVC for compressed air is stupid.  Average 
compressor outlet temperature is around double the rating for the pipe... 
and at half that temperature, the pipe strength is basically maxed out by 
a typical compressor ( 600 psi * .22 de-rate for 140* = 132 psi when brand 
new! ).

    If you consider a safety margin of zero acceptable, then I guess I have 
no further comment.

--
  David Hillman
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