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Subject: Re: Sign-o-the-times
From: "John Viviani II" <>
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 18:28:09 -0600

This exacatly what Jay Leno stated a few years back.  What he did was find
this little college out here in Kansas and provide us with scholarships and
much needed publicity.  The school is Mcpherson College
and has a decent program for automobile restoration where many skills are
taught.  I am mentioning this because I will be graduating in May from there
and am looking for employment somewhere (I have sent out many resumes' but
saw this has an opportunity to further plug myself) So if you know of any
restoration, machine shops, foundry's, etc who are looking for people let
them (or me know) There is a graduating class of 15-20 each year (10 or so
quailifed) that is looking for opprotunities like this. I for one would like
to get in somewhere that has ownership potential.

John Viviani

> Fellow Metal Freaks-
> In this disposable world it is becoming more difficult to find any real
> artisans any more. For that matter, it's becoming difficult to find
> competency any more. The latest lament is over a heat treating shop about
> miles from my house. The two guys who ran the shop actually knew what they
> were doing and would not only take the time to ascertain my needs and how
> fulfill them, but took the time to show me any and all aspects of their
> (Only time I have ever seen, let alone used a Comparator.)
> So I loaded up my newly bent sway bars and tooled down to San Francisco
> to find a sign on the shop that said "Retired...out of business." I know I
> could have called first, but it never dawned on me that they would be
gone. I
> knew that they were both in their 60's and they had noted that they could
> get anyone interested in working with them so that the shop could
> but this is a harsh reality.
> The machinists that I use (2 brothers) actually run a "machine" shop, not
> some local automotive shop with a press in the back room, and they too
> said the same thing. When they retire the shop will close!
> It is a sad commentary that this great pool of talent and experience is
> disappearing from the land. I can only guess that this is occurring on a
> Nationwide, if not Worldwide, basis and is a sad commentary on our
> So, does anyone in the SF Bay Area know of a decent heat treating
> OK, I'm off the soapbox now...
>         Nick of Nor Cal

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