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Re: [Mg-t] TF Blinkers & Brake Lights

To: <gunnellj@athenet.net>, <Mg-t@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Mg-t] TF Blinkers & Brake Lights
From: "Lawrence Karpman" <lkarpman@tx.rr.com>
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 00:04:26 -0500
Oops. I gave you the location of the Lucas relay on the late TD. I believe 
on the TF it's mounted on the left side of your engine bay.

Larry

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <gunnellj@athenet.net>
To: <Mg-t@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 11:04 PM
Subject: [Mg-t] TF Blinkers & Brake Lights


> Hello Again
>
>   I am dealing with a number of issues involving brake lights and 
> directional signals on my MG TF.
>
>   Let's start several years back. The directionals were not canceling when 
> I got the car. A shop put in a brand new repro switch from the leading 
> supplier. It didn't work. The shop sent it back and put the old switch in.
>
>   Then I found a man in Dayton, Ohio selling parts on eBay. He said he 
> could fix the switches. One hour labor @ $75. I sent him the first switch 
> and he fixed it. Worked fine. I bought a second non-functional switch on 
> eBay and sent it to the man in Dayton and had it rebuilt for my MG TD 
> which has no blinkers. I never installed it.
>
>   Last year the first rebuilt switch started working only on one side. We 
> took it out and installed the second switch rebuilt by the man in Dayton. 
> It did not work.  We took the first switch apart and discovered why it 
> worked only on one side. It had a U-shaped copper contact inside and half 
> of the "U" was broken off. We figured we could take the other switch apart 
> and pirate its U-shaped copper contact. No dice. It was of a different 
> design inside and did not have a U-shaped copper contact.
>
>   This year I found a man in Atlanta area who said he could rebuild the 
> switches better and cheaper. I sent him the second switch. He returned it 
> and said it was cleaned. adjusted and tested. When I put it in the car it 
> did not work properly. The vacuum did not come off on either side. On the 
> left, it just kept blinking away and seemed impossible to shut off unless 
> you moved the plastic handle just right. After a 25-mile ride, I had no 
> blinkers AND NO BRAKE LIGHTS.
>
>   I have now replaced the brake light switch. The first one tested bad, 
> but the new one did not solve the problem. Still no brake lights and no 
> blinkers. All other lights work. There is juice at the flasher mounted 
> under the hood. I have not re-tested the new switch under the car. We have 
> no signal light switch in the car right now.
>
>   There are several things I'd like to know:
>
> 1- Is it possible to get oner of the U-shaped copper contacts so I could 
> fix that switch?
>
> 2- Any ideas on where my problems lie.
>
> 3- Any information that would help me track down signal light how-to 
> articles that were published in Sacred Octagon. Or a wiring diagram for a 
> car with signal lights.
>
> 4- At this point I'm pretty frustrated with the original Lucas vacuum 
> switches and would just as soon rig up a neat looking aftermarket setup 
> that works better with toggle switches, a motorcycle switch, a golf cartt 
> switch, etc. Has anyone done this or know where I can get information on 
> doing it in a T Series?
>
> John Gunnell
> Iola, WI
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