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Re: [Healeys] Advice and guidance needed for OD reinstallation

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Advice and guidance needed for OD reinstallation
From: Bob Spidell via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2025 07:34:42 -0700
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When I read this I thought "OMG, I didn't put these in when I did a 
gearbox/OD rebuild a few years ago, is that what causes the notorious 
jumping-out-of-fourth problem?!" So I checked my parts catalog--aka the 
Moss catalog--and didn't see them listed in the OD sections, but I did 
find them in the 'Internal gearbox, 4 speed' section showing the 
mainshaft assembly as 'plate, spring bearing' and 'plate, bearing,' but 
only for the pre-BJ8 cars on the front of the gearbox (by the first 
motion shaft). So, did I miss something, as I don't recall ever seeing 
them in the OD adapter in 2 rebuilds (the catalog doesn't show them)?

For the BJ8, the catalog shows 2 available shim sizes, in lieu of the 
bellville washer and 'plate,' I presume, but I installed DWM's 'uprated' 
shim and had to have the bellhousing machined appropriately.

https://www.bighealey.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product_grouped&product_id=34295

Bob

On 8/27/2025 1:30 PM, Michael Salter wrote:
> Those "rings" are the Bellville washer and shim that go into the 
> adaptor plate to eliminate end float of the mainshaft bearing.
>
>
>
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> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Leonard 
> Berkowitz via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 27, 2025 3:50:01 PM
> *To:* healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Advice and guidance needed for OD reinstallation
> Hi. All
> I finally figured out how to get the OD out of my BJ7. Now for getting 
> the new one installed. I found two rings sitting on the output shaft 
> which I believe are fitted to the adapter plate. (See pics attached). 
> The problem is going to be how to keep them in place while maneuvering 
> the new OD into place. I was thinking of using either white lithium 
> grease or wheel bearing grease.
> Any suggestions?
> Thank you in advance for any help you can offer.
>
> Len Berkowitz
>

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    When I read this I thought "OMG, I didn't put these in when I did a
    gearbox/OD rebuild a few years ago, is that what causes the
    notorious jumping-out-of-fourth problem?!" So I checked my parts
    catalog--aka the Moss catalog--and didn't see them listed in the OD
    sections, but I did find them in the 'Internal gearbox, 4 speed'
    section showing the mainshaft assembly as 'plate, spring bearing'
    and 'plate, bearing,' but only for the pre-BJ8 cars on the front of
    the gearbox (by the first motion shaft). So, did I miss something,
    as I don't recall ever seeing them in the OD adapter in 2 rebuilds
    (the catalog doesn't show them)? <br>
    <br>
    For the BJ8, the catalog shows 2 available shim sizes, in lieu of
    the bellville washer and 'plate,' I presume, but I installed DWM's
    'uprated' shim and had to have the bellhousing machined
    appropriately.<br>
    <br>
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href="https://www.bighealey.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product_grouped&amp;product_id=34295";>https://www.bighealey.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product_grouped&amp;product_id=34295</a><br>
    <br>
    Bob<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/27/2025 1:30 PM, Michael Salter
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        Those "rings" are the Bellville washer and shim that go into the
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          style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Healeys
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href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>&lt;healeys-bounces@autox.team.net&gt;</a>
 on behalf of Leonard
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href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;</a><br>
          <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 27, 2025 3:50:01 PM<br>
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          <b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] Advice and guidance needed for OD
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          Hi. All</div>
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          I finally figured out how to get the OD out of my BJ7. Now for
          getting the new one installed. I found two rings sitting on
          the output shaft which I believe are fitted to the adapter
          plate. (See pics attached). The problem is going to be how to
          keep them in place while maneuvering the new OD into place. I
          was thinking of using either white lithium grease or wheel
          bearing grease. </div>
        <div
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          Any suggestions? </div>
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          Thank you in advance for any help you can offer. </div>
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          Len Berkowitz </div>
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