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Jamie
We were at a crossroads with our ChampCar TR6 as well. It did its job and
by my count it helped 6 drivers make the decision to get involved with
vintage racing. As time went on we made the car faster by adding fuel
injection and aero and raced with experienced drivers to great effect.
Everyone had a great time but their focus was on their vintage car and last
year we did not have enough of us older drivers to make a ChampCar entry
work. The car sat all year but still starts right up! This year, we gave
it one last try at getting enough drivers and we have a group of younger
drivers and a couple of new drivers, so we have three races planned. The
fact that COTA is turning itself into a private, high dollar, membership
only club, and there is one last ChampCar race there in December gave
people the impetus to sign up. After that,I think the end is near for my
ChampCar program.
Here's what I know. My Texas club recently updated our rules and added
classes for 1985 cars. Other clubs have rules with cut off years that vary,
but the reality of shrinking grids has hit vintage racing clubs and soon
most will accept more modern cars. In the 1985 SCCA GCR and PCS car weights
are reduced and fiberglass panels are allowable. Modern Fuel injection is
clearly out, because almost all rules are based on the concept of "period
correct". Triumph's fuel injection is allowed. The TR6 has a couple of
build options, in Former CP, GT2C and former DP in GT3D. The PCS rules are
almost identical but the car weight is substantially higher for GT3D.
You'll want to ditch the bumpers and upgrade the camshaft and valve train,
and most clubs want a period looking paint job. You can run dual SU's or
Strombergs in GT3D, but you'll want Webers for GT2C.
My car would need a lot of work for a vintage conversion, mostly because
the bones are so bad. The body is very rough under the panels and the
floors are literally road signs. It worked for Lemon's, WRL, and
Chump/Champ, but the driveline is top notch. I'm not sure what I am going
to do with it going forward but after this year I will make a decision. I
may pull it apart and move the driveline into a street car.
Bob
On Tue, 17 Mar 2026 at 23:22, Chuck Gee <chasgee22@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Jamie,
>
> Check out VDCA, https://www.vintagedrive.com/. I=E2=80=99m down in SC an=
d this
> is the group I race with. Tracks we race include Roebling Road, VIR, Roa=
d
> Atlanta. A real easy and friendly group.
>
> You can find the rules on their website. You are correct about the
> fiberglass and fuel injection, probably the bumpers too. They look too
> heavy anyway.
>
> Feel free to reach out with any questions.
>
> Chuck Gee
>
> On Mar 17, 2026, at 10:41=E2=80=AFPM, James Palmer <tr6driver@yahoo.com> =
wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BFOk, friends=E2=80=A6help!
> I finished my TR6 =E2=80=9Cbudget=E2=80=9D endurance race car last year, =
only to find long
> driving stints may no longer work for my hands (long story). So, one
> thought that occurred to me was to examine what changes I=E2=80=99d need =
to make to
> make it *eligible* (note, not competitive) for vintage. I=E2=80=99m gues=
sing the
> fiberglass fenders, bumpers and modern fuel injection would have to go,
> right? Not major issues. Cosmetically I wanted it pretty nice as long a=
s
> you don=E2=80=99t look TOO close ;-)
> <image0.jpeg>
> <image1.jpeg>
> <image2.jpeg>
> <image3.jpeg>
> <image4.jpeg>
> <image5.jpeg>
>
>
> What else?
>
> Car is prepared to a moderate standard, but very safe. Has full cage,
> fire suppression, fuel cell, etc. See pics if they come through.
>
> Are the 200TW DOT tires legal?
>
> Thanks for any recommendations, especially sanctioning bodies in the
> Southeast (I=E2=80=99m in NC).
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Jamie<div><br></div><div>We were at a crossroads with our =
ChampCar TR6 as well. It did its job and by my count it helped 6 drivers ma=
ke the decision to get involved with vintage racing. As time went on we mad=
e the car faster by adding fuel injection and aero and raced with experienc=
ed=C2=A0drivers to great effect. Everyone had a great time but their focus =
was on their vintage car and last year we did not have enough of us older d=
rivers to make a ChampCar entry work. The car sat all year but still starts=
right up!=C2=A0 This year, we gave it one last try at getting enough drive=
rs and we have a group of younger drivers and a couple of new drivers, so w=
e have three races planned. The fact that COTA is turning itself into a pri=
vate, high dollar, membership only club, and there is one last ChampCar rac=
e there in December gave people the impetus to sign up. After=C2=A0that,I t=
hink the end is near for my ChampCar program.=C2=A0 =C2=A0</div><div><br></=
div><div>Here's what I know.=C2=A0 My Texas club recently updated=C2=A0=
our rules and added classes for 1985 cars. Other clubs have rules with cut =
off years that vary, but the reality of shrinking grids has hit vintage rac=
ing clubs and soon most will accept more modern cars. In the 1985 SCCA GCR =
and PCS car weights are reduced and fiberglass panels are allowable. Modern=
Fuel injection is clearly out, because almost all rules are based on the c=
oncept of "period correct".=C2=A0 Triumph's fuel injection is=
allowed. The TR6 has a couple of build options, in Former CP, GT2C and for=
mer DP in GT3D. The PCS rules are almost identical but the car weight is su=
bstantially higher for GT3D. You'll want to ditch the bumpers and upgra=
de the camshaft and valve train, and most clubs want a period looking paint=
job. You can run dual SU's or Strombergs in GT3D, but you'll want =
Webers for GT2C.<br></div><div><br></div><div>My car would need a lot of wo=
rk for a vintage conversion, mostly because the bones are so bad. The body =
is very rough under the panels and the floors are literally road signs. It =
worked for Lemon's, WRL, and Chump/Champ, but the driveline is top notc=
h. I'm not sure what I am going to do with it going forward but after t=
his year I will make a decision. I may pull it apart and move the driveline=
into a street car.</div><div><br></div><div>Bob</div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr=
">On Tue, 17 Mar 2026 at 23:22, Chuck Gee <<a href=3D"mailto:chasgee22@g=
mail.com">chasgee22@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Hi Jamie,<div><br></div><div=
>Check out VDCA,=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.vintagedrive.com/"; target=3D"_=
blank">https://www.vintagedrive.com/</a>.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m down in SC and =
this is the group I race with.=C2=A0 Tracks we race include Roebling Road, =
VIR, Road Atlanta.=C2=A0 A real easy and friendly group.</div><div><br></di=
v><div>You can find the rules on their website.=C2=A0 You are correct about=
the fiberglass and fuel injection, probably the bumpers too.=C2=A0 They lo=
ok too heavy anyway.</div><div><br></div><div>Feel free to reach out with a=
ny questions.</div><div><br id=3D"m_-8543069323078392619lineBreakAtBeginnin=
gOfSignature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Chuck Gee</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite">On Mar 17, 2026, at 10:41=E2=80=AFPM, James Palmer <<a=
href=3D"mailto:tr6driver@yahoo.com"; target=3D"_blank">tr6driver@yahoo.com<=
/a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<span>Ok, friends=E2=80=A6help!</span><br><span>I finishe=
d my TR6 =E2=80=9Cbudget=E2=80=9D endurance race car last year, only to fin=
d long driving stints may no longer work for my hands (long story).=C2=A0 S=
o, one thought that occurred to me was to examine what changes I=E2=80=99d =
need to make to make it *eligible* (note, not competitive) for vintage.=C2=
=A0 I=E2=80=99m guessing the fiberglass fenders, bumpers and modern fuel in=
jection would have to go, right?=C2=A0 Not major issues.=C2=A0 Cosmetically=
I wanted it pretty nice as long as you don=E2=80=99t look TOO close ;-)<di=
v><image0.jpeg></div><div><image1.jpeg></div><div><image2.jp=
eg></div><div><image3.jpeg></div><div><image4.jpeg></div><di=
v><image5.jpeg></div><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>What els=
e? =C2=A0</span><br><span></span><br><span>Car is prepared to a moderate st=
andard, but very safe.=C2=A0 Has full cage, fire suppression, fuel cell, et=
c.=C2=A0 See pics if they come through.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Ar=
e the 200TW DOT tires legal?</span><br><span></span><br><span>Thanks for an=
y recommendations, especially sanctioning bodies in the Southeast (I=E2=80=
=99m in NC).</span><br><span></span><br><span>Jamie Palmer<span>___________=
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