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Re: [Fot] Heads Up! Fire System Requirements for Kastner Cup

To: FOT Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>, Joe Alexander <joealexandervintage@gmail.com>, Ken Knight <kknight@klaenv.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Heads Up! Fire System Requirements for Kastner Cup
From: vfracing--- via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 23:03:08 +0000 (UTC)
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 Another word to the wise:
Some of the two-pull systems use AFFF. =C2=A0This is a good fire fighting a=
gent, but by no means the only one. =C2=A0AFFF contains PFAS, which is a ma=
n-made family of chemicals coming under increasing scrutiny for causing hea=
lth issues. =C2=A0If you use this and dispose of it improperly it could com=
e back to bite you. =C2=A0Fighting a fire with AFFF is costing our Town hun=
dreds of thousands of dollars in tracking contamination plumes and treating=
 the wells in affected homes.
See=C2=A0Aqueous Film Forming Foam (AFFF) | Toxicity, Exposures and Illness=
es

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    On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 05:39:57 PM EST, Mordy Dunst <gasket.w=
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On Tuesday, February 20, 2024, 1:49 PM, Ken Knight via Fot <fot@autox.team.=
net> wrote:

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So with a very short time get this done, this is the New rule?=C2=A0 Had we=
 known this, oh say last fall, it could have been a winter project.=C2=A0 S=
ome of this is not hard but sending your system off to get a recertificatio=
n could very well be a major problem in these times.=C2=A0 So what is the a=
lternative, buy a new system?=C2=A0 Some of us have already committed to ra=
ce with our home clubs in mid March, then it is a short turn around until S=
onoma.=C2=A0 Pretty well leaves us in a major bind as far I can tell, not t=
o mention a potential large expense.

 =C2=A0

We were encouraged to sign up for the K Cup with SVRA, plus Laguna, under t=
he assumption that if our cars were legal in our home clubs they would be a=
llowed to run as is.=C2=A0 Dropping this mandatory rule on us at the last m=
inute does not sit well.=C2=A0 No one wants to be unsafe, I don=E2=80=99t t=
hink the rule is that unreasonable, but the timing to get this done is unre=
asonable.

 =C2=A0

Ken

 =C2=A0

Sent from Mail for Windows

 =C2=A0

From: vfracing--- via Fot
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2024 12:46 PM
To: FOT Triumph
Subject: [Fot] Heads Up! Fire System Requirements for Kastner Cup

 =C2=A0

Advanced warning:

The SVRA rules on fire systems are much more strict than SCCA and some of t=
he other sanctioning bodies such as VRG. =C2=A0Notably, plumbed in systems =
are required, and they must have two activation points, one accessible to t=
he driver and the other accessible to a course worker without having to lea=
n into the car. =C2=A0Furthermore, they must be re-certified every two year=
s. =C2=A0Note that these are requirements, not recommendations, and new thi=
s year (2024)

 =C2=A0

For more detail, please see Section L of Safety Requirements at=C2=A0https:=
//svra.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SVRA-General-Rules-1_24.pdf.

 =C2=A0

Regards,

 =C2=A0

Phil Gott

 =C2=A0
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Im with Ken=E2=80=A6<div>Mordy<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br cle=
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iv8158045542yahoo-quoted-begin">On Tuesday, February 20, 2024, 1:49 PM, Ken=
 Knight via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:</p><blockquote class=3D"y=
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8045542MsoNormal">So with a very short time get this done, this is the New =
rule?&nbsp; Had we known this, oh say last fall, it could have been a winte=
r project.&nbsp; Some of this is not hard but sending your system off to ge=
t a recertification could very well be a major problem in these times.&nbsp=
; So what is the alternative, buy a new system?&nbsp; Some of us have alrea=
dy committed to race with our home clubs in mid March, then it is a short t=
urn around until Sonoma.&nbsp; Pretty well leaves us in a major bind as far=
 I can tell, not to mention a potential large expense.</p><p class=3D"yiv81=
58045542MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"yiv8158045542MsoNormal">We were e=
ncouraged to sign up for the K Cup with SVRA, plus Laguna, under the assump=
tion that if our cars were legal in our home clubs they would be allowed to=
 run as is.&nbsp; Dropping this mandatory rule on us at the last minute doe=
s not sit well.&nbsp; No one wants to be unsafe, I don=E2=80=99t think the =
rule is that unreasonable, but the timing to get this done is unreasonable.=
</p><p class=3D"yiv8158045542MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"yiv815804554=
2MsoNormal">Ken</p><p class=3D"yiv8158045542MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=
=3D"yiv8158045542MsoNormal">Sent from <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferre=
r" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink=
/?LinkId=3D550986">Mail</a> for Windows</p><p class=3D"yiv8158045542MsoNorm=
al"> &nbsp;</p><div id=3D"yiv8158045542yqt15940" class=3D"yiv8158045542yqt6=
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:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><p style=3D"border:none;padding:0in;" class=3D"yiv8158=
045542MsoNormal"><b>From: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=
=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"m=
ailto:fot@autox.team.net">vfracing--- via Fot</a><br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent=
: </b>Tuesday, February 20, 2024 12:46 PM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To: </b><a r=
el=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@au=
tox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>FOT Triu=
mph</a><br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject: </b>[Fot] Heads Up! Fire System Requi=
rements for Kastner Cup</p></div><p class=3D"yiv8158045542MsoNormal"> &nbsp=
;</p><div><div id=3D"yiv8158045542ydpcd388636yiv1885551611"><div><div><div>=
<p class=3D"yiv8158045542MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-fa=
mily:sans-serif;">Advanced warning:</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv815=
8045542MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">=
The SVRA rules on fire systems are much more strict than SCCA and some of t=
he other sanctioning bodies such as VRG. &nbsp;Notably, plumbed in systems =
are required, and they must have two activation points, one accessible to t=
he driver and the other accessible to a course worker without having to lea=
n into the car. &nbsp;Furthermore, they must be re-certified every two year=
s. &nbsp;Note that these are requirements, not recommendations, and new thi=
s year (2024)</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv8158045542MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> &nbsp;</span></p></di=
v><div><p class=3D"yiv8158045542MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;=
font-family:sans-serif;">For more detail, please see Section L of Safety Re=
quirements at&nbsp;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" t=
arget=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://svra.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SVRA-G=
eneral-Rules-1_24.pdf">https://svra.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SVRA-Gen=
eral-Rules-1_24.pdf</a>.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv8158045542MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> &nbsp;</sp=
an></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv8158045542MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Regards,</span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"yiv8158045542MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:san=
s-serif;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=3D"yiv81=
58045542MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"=
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