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I called my company, Safecraft, and my bottle is just beyond when they will=
recertify again. So $640 and the new bottle is on order. They were kind =
enough to direct me to Summit Racing where I got it cheaper than direct. A=
ll is in stock and they are just up the 101 from me in the bay area so I sh=
ould have it in plenty of time. Systems at Pegasus were running $750-1200 =
if you needing the full kit with 2 pulls. Just FYI.
It is not that I mind doing this, I witnessed a car fire during a race last=
year (fire suit saved the driver from injury). It is dropping this on us =
at the last minute that is the problem. I doubt they just thought up this =
rule last week, and possible folks within SVRA knew about this, but we did =
not.
I hope this does not cause problems for anyone else trying to make the K Cu=
p and facing a long tow.
Ken
Sent from Mail for Windows
From: Brad Eells
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2024 1:37 PM
To: Ken Knight
Cc: vfracing@aol.com; FOT Triumph
Subject: Re: [Fot] Heads Up! Fire System Requirements for Kastner Cup
Interesting, as this may be an issue for the K-Cup this year. Running at So=
noma with SVRA 8 weeks from now.
That said, when rebuilding the Spitfire, I chose an SPA aqueous foam system=
with 4 distribution nozzles and 3 actuators; one outside, one on the dash =
and the bottle handle itself.
Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 20, 2024, at 3:31=E2=80=AFPM, Ken Knight via Fot <fot@autox.team.net=
> wrote:
=EF=BB=BF
So with a very short time get this done, this is the New rule?=C2=A0 Had we=
known this, oh say last fall, it could have been a winter project.=C2=A0 S=
ome of this is not hard but sending your system off to get a recertificatio=
n could very well be a major problem in these times.=C2=A0 So what is the a=
lternative, buy a new system?=C2=A0 Some of us have already committed to ra=
ce with our home clubs in mid March, then it is a short turn around until S=
onoma.=C2=A0 Pretty well leaves us in a major bind as far I can tell, not t=
o mention a potential large expense.
=C2=A0
We were encouraged to sign up for the K Cup with SVRA, plus Laguna, under t=
he assumption that if our cars were legal in our home clubs they would be a=
llowed to run as is.=C2=A0 Dropping this mandatory rule on us at the last m=
inute does not sit well.=C2=A0 No one wants to be unsafe, I don=E2=80=99t t=
hink the rule is that unreasonable, but the timing to get this done is unre=
asonable.
=C2=A0
Ken
=C2=A0
Sent from Mail for Windows
=C2=A0
From: vfracing--- via Fot
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2024 12:46 PM
To: FOT Triumph
Subject: [Fot] Heads Up! Fire System Requirements for Kastner Cup
=C2=A0
Advanced warning:
The SVRA rules on fire systems are much more strict than SCCA and some of t=
he other sanctioning bodies such as VRG. =C2=A0Notably, plumbed in systems =
are required, and they must have two activation points, one accessible to t=
he driver and the other accessible to a course worker without having to lea=
n into the car. =C2=A0Furthermore, they must be re-certified every two year=
s. =C2=A0Note that these are requirements, not recommendations, and new thi=
s year (2024)
=C2=A0
For more detail, please see Section L of Safety Requirements at=C2=A0https:=
//svra.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SVRA-General-Rules-1_24.pdf.
=C2=A0
Regards,
=C2=A0
Phil Gott
=C2=A0
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'word-wrap:break-word'><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>I cal=
led my company, Safecraft, and my bottle is just beyond when they will rece=
rtify again.=C2=A0 So $640 and the new bottle is on order.=C2=A0 They were =
kind enough to direct me to Summit Racing where I got it cheaper than direc=
t.=C2=A0 All is in stock and they are just up the 101 from me in the bay ar=
ea so I should have it in plenty of time.=C2=A0 Systems at Pegasus were run=
ning $750-1200 if you needing the full kit with 2 pulls.=C2=A0 Just FYI.</p=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>It is not t=
hat I mind doing this, I witnessed a car fire during a race last year (fire=
suit saved the driver from injury).=C2=A0 It is dropping this on us at the=
last minute that is the problem.=C2=A0 I doubt they just thought up this r=
ule last week, and possible folks within SVRA knew about this, but we did n=
ot.</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I hop=
e this does not cause problems for anyone else trying to make the K Cup and=
facing a long tow.</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal>Ken</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMs=
oNormal>Sent from <a href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D5509=
86">Mail</a> for Windows</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div =
style=3D'mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1=
.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'border:none;p=
adding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto:tr4abrad@gmail.com";>Brad Eells</=
a><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, February 20, 2024 1:37 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=
=3D"mailto:kknight@klaenv.com";>Ken Knight</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href=3D"mail=
to:vfracing@aol.com">vfracing@aol.com</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team=
.net">FOT Triumph</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Fot] Heads Up! Fire System Re=
quirements for Kastner Cup</p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Interesting, as this may be an issue for the K-Cup =
this year. Running at Sonoma with SVRA 8 weeks from now.<o:p></o:p></p><div=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>=
That said, when rebuilding the Spitfire, I chose an SPA aqueous foam system=
with 4 distribution nozzles and 3 actuators; one outside, one on the dash =
and the bottle handle itself.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal=
><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Brad Eells<o:p></o:p></p><d=
iv><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style=3D'margin-top=
:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.=
0pt'>On Feb 20, 2024, at 3:31=E2=80=AFPM, Ken Knight via Fot <fot@autox.=
team.net> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style=3D'm=
argin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>=EF=BB=BF<o:=
p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>So with a very short time get this done, t=
his is the New rule? Had we known this, oh say last fall, it could ha=
ve been a winter project. Some of this is not hard but sending your s=
ystem off to get a recertification could very well be a major problem in th=
ese times. So what is the alternative, buy a new system? Some o=
f us have already committed to race with our home clubs in mid March, then =
it is a short turn around until Sonoma. Pretty well leaves us in a ma=
jor bind as far I can tell, not to mention a potential large expense.<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>We =
were encouraged to sign up for the K Cup with SVRA, plus Laguna, under the =
assumption that if our cars were legal in our home clubs they would be allo=
wed to run as is. Dropping this mandatory rule on us at the last minu=
te does not sit well. No one wants to be unsafe, I don=E2=80=99t thin=
k the rule is that unreasonable, but the timing to get this done is unreaso=
nable.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DM=
soNormal>Ken<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p cla=
ss=3DMsoNormal>Sent from <a href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=
=3D550986">Mail</a> for Windows<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal> <o=
:p></o:p></p><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;paddi=
ng:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto:f=
ot@autox.team.net">vfracing--- via Fot</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, Februar=
y 20, 2024 12:46 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>FOT=
Triumph</a><br><b>Subject: </b>[Fot] Heads Up! Fire System Requirements fo=
r Kastner Cup<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p=
><div><div id=3Dydpcd388636yiv1885551611><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Advanced =
warning:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>The SVRA rules on fire=
systems are much more strict than SCCA and some of the other sanctioning b=
odies such as VRG. Notably, plumbed in systems are required, and they=
must have two activation points, one accessible to the driver and the othe=
r accessible to a course worker without having to lean into the car. =
Furthermore, they must be re-certified every two years. Note that the=
se are requirements, not recommendations, and new this year (2024)</span><o=
:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0p=
t;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p=
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans=
-serif'>For more detail, please see Section L of Safety Requirements at&nbs=
p;<a href=3D"https://svra.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SVRA-General-Rules=
-1_24.pdf" target=3D"_blank">https://svra.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SV=
RA-General-Rules-1_24.pdf</a>.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DM=
soNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>&n=
bsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></=
p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-fami=
ly:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div>=
</div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Ari=
al",sans-serif'>Phil Gott</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal> <=
o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-ma=
rgin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:.5in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'>_=
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