You have to jiggle, jerk, and saw to go fast in an AWD?! OUCH! On a
related note, I heard that Elena Bobbit's ex-husband got re-married today!
--Navid
No thanks I'll stick to my RWD
> -----Original Message-----
> From: james creasy [mailto:Black94PGT@pacbell.net]
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 5:57 PM
> To: Runnion, Ed; 'Randy Noll '; ba-autox@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: Kumhos for WRX
>
>
> > It's a little strange for me....the car seems to initially
> push, then
> > transitions to oversteer as you go a little further....but
> then the way to
> > SAVE it is to hit the gas!
>
> the good AWD drivers ive ridden with generally 1. jiggle the
> wheel to upset
> the suspension. 2. jerk the wheel so the car turns some
> amount. 3. floor it
> and saw the wheel to make corrections.
>
> perhaps a slight exaggeration, but not much!
>
> i got to drive my brother's 1995 WRX. the early models had a
> locked rear
> axle and one big turbo. needed to left foot brake and floor
> it even BEFORE
> i finished braking due to the lag. the sensation of all that
> traction under
> power was unnerving.
>
> -james c
> OSP - Oh Some Performance!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Runnion, Ed" <Ed_Runnion@regionofdoom.com>
> To: "'Randy Noll '" <rnoll98@yahoo.com>; <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
> Cc: <Toy4speed@aol.com>; <PETER.THANA@ROCHE.COM>
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 5:50 PM
> Subject: RE: Kumhos for WRX
>
>
> > >You also might want to find someone who has the 225s mounted on a
> > >16x6.5 rim and see how much the tread bends near the sidewall. I've
> > >seen some wacky guys run 225 Hoosiers on a 6" wide wheel
> and the tread
> > >tends to turn to sidewall an inch or two in from the
> actual sidewall
> > >(e.g. your contact patch may be actually smaller since the
> rim is too
> > >narrow for the tire). Granted a lot of this may be able to be
> > >manipulated with pressures, camber, and such.
> >
> > Seen a few WRXs with the 225s : while "squished" a bit, the tread is
> > livable. It only starts climbing the sidewall a tiny bit.
> I do NOT
> think
> > you'll get 20 mm extra tread on the ground (225 - 205 = 20)
> with the 225s,
> > but should at least get SOME more.
> >
> > >Also consider the handling characteristics of the car and maybe put
> > >wider tires on the end that you want more traction. Some
> of the type-R
> > >guys shoehorn 225s on the front of the car and 205s in the
> back, both
> > >on 6" wide wheels. If your car pushes (it seems like the
> WRX does in
> > >stock trim) maybe you should do the same.
> >
> > Only issue is that with AWD, you really need to stick with
> the same tire
> > diameter all around. And I don't think there are any
> other tires in R
> > compound with the same diameter (225/50R16 is same diameter
> as the stock
> > 205/55R16, but alas there are no R tires in 205/55R16).
> >
> > It's a little strange for me....the car seems to initially
> push, then
> > transitions to oversteer as you go a little further....but
> then the way to
> > SAVE it is to hit the gas! This AWD thing is gonna take a bit of
> getting
> > used to :^).
> >
> > >I'd check what type of speed you can achieve in 2nd gear
> with the stock
> > >size before dropping to a smaller tire.
> >
> > 62 MPH, whereas the 205/45s would allow 57 MPH. So yes, it could
> become
> > a factor on some tighter courses. With a wide-open
> course, I'd probably
> > be in 3rd regardless.
> >
> > Strange thing is, the 1-2 and 2-3 shift MPHs are EXACTLY
> the same on the
> > stock WRX as on my (not even close to stock :^) ) Impala
> SS! Namely,
> 38-39
> > MPH for 1-2 and 62 MPH for 2-3.
> >
> > And as they are right now, both cars are pretty dang close
> in straight
> line
> > acceleration (0-60, both right around the 6.0sec
> range).....the SS pulls
> > harder off the line due to the torque, but the WRX hits
> harder as the
> boost
> > comes in.
> >
> > Six One Way, Half Dozen the Other I guess :^)
> >
> > >Check to make sure the 225mm tires clear ok, especially in
> the rears as
> > >the RS models had problems with certain brands of 225mm race tires
> > >rubbing on fender linings. Again, yours may have more clearance.
> >
> > They clear, other WRX owners are already running them.
> Those tall stock
> > springs (that I have to keep for DS class) aren't hurting
> here. Doubt
> > you'd get 245s in there though.
> >
> > >As for which Kumho, I've heard conflicting reports about which is
> >better,
> > and also some rumors that the ECSTA compound is not yet
> > >finalized and may in fact be very similar to the
> Victoracers. I'd get
> > >the new ones though, they are supposedly a bit lighter.
> >
> > I'm leaning to the Ecsta V700s, more as an experiment than
> anything else.
> > Price is the same (well, $1 different), and Tire Rack shows
> both available
> > and in stock, so should not be an issue there.
> >
> > >If you ever find yourself with a lot of money, a rich
> co-driver, or a
> > >need for more grip, the unquestionable hot setup on that
> car would be
> > >the new 215/40/16 Hoosier. You'll get much better gearing
> and Andy says
> > >they are the same width as a 225.
> >
> > Maybe for Tour Event or something, but I'd go broke trying
> to run those on
> a
> > 3 times/month basis :^).
> >
> > Thanks for the tips y'all, looks like I'm gonna try a set
> of the Ecsta
> V700s
> > in 225/50R16!
> >
> > Ed Runnion Santa Clara CA
> > mailto:Ed_Runnion@RegionOfDoom.com
> > 96 Chevy Impala SS, ESP #984
> > 02 Subaru WRX SportWagon, DS
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