I know one who's service manual is reported be speced to allow up to 2.4 degrees
negative :^).
b
James Creasy wrote:
> > "Whad he say?"
> > MJ
>
> sorry, for those that didnt read the article in GRM, they tested a bunch of
> pocket rockets and reported, among other things, the lap times on an
> autocross course.
>
> my comment refers to that they were on different models of street tires, and
> you cant predict how fast the cars will be in stock form on r-tires. (and
> further, that the neon ACR suspension might be tuned with r-tires in mind.)
>
> maybe im wrong, but dont (virtually all) stock class cars have too limited a
> camber adjustment to get maximum traction out of r-tires?
>
> -james c
> OSP - Overtly Superior Power
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Lolita and Mike <lomike@earthlink.net>
> To: James Creasy <black94pgt@pacbell.net>; <bchafin@attglobal.net>; John J.
> Stimson-III <john@harlie.idsfa.net>
> Cc: Patrick <pjsimm@inreach.com>; <ba-autox@autox.team.net>; Steve Wynne
> <swynne@bendnet.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 7:58 PM
> Subject: Re: '02 ACR owners On-Line???
>
> > on 3/25/02 8:13, James Creasy at black94pgt@pacbell.net wrote:
> >
> > "Whad he say?"
> > MJ
> >
> > > oh gosh, those are all different street tires. then there is no way to
> > > compare the times to get an idea of ultimate speed. is there a
> stock-class
> > > car that can be setup to give proper tire temps (i.e. camber) on
> r-tires?
> > > so if the neon has stiffer sway bars, it would have a big advantage in
> > > something closer to the correct front-rear bar ratio.
> > >
> > > -james c
> > > OSP - Oh Sh!t, Puddles
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Barry Chafin <bchafin@attglobal.net>
> > > Subject: Re: '02 ACR owners On-Line???
> > >
> > >
> > >> The BFG Comp T/A ZR in the GRM Neon ACR compares w/ Firestone Firehawk
> > > SZ50,
> > >> Goodyear Eagle GS-C or F1 Steel, Bridgestone RE730 and Dunlop SP Sport
> > > 8000
> > >> (none of which are all season). In the three tests TireRack publishes
> > >> comparing these tires the BFG Comp T/A ZR has the least dry traction
> and
> > >> highest lap times of the 5 tires.
> > >>
> > >> I know that the SpecV has been tested with Continental ContiSport tires
> > > but
> > >> haven't a clue if they were on the test car or how it compares with the
> > > Comp
> > >> T/A ZR... Tires make the biggest difference after the driver, right
> > > :^)...
> > >>
> > >> Barry - http://www.4d-sport.com
> > >>
> > >> "John J. Stimson-III" wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 07:45:40PM -0800, James Creasy wrote:
> > >>>> im skeptical of any magazine test results. the alignment settings on
> > > a
> > >>>> stock class car can create big differences in autox speed, and who
> > > knows
> > >>>> what the factories did to the cars before sending them to GRM.
> > >>>
> > >>> Some of them put non-standard tires on. According to owners on the
> > >>> SCCA forums, PZeros are not stock on the MP3, and BFG KDs are not
> > >>> stock on the Neon. Hmm.
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>>
> > >>> john@idsfa.net John
> Stimson
> > >>> http://www.idsfa.net/~john/ HMC Physics
> '94
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