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Re: Silly course question

To: giles@vy.com
Subject: Re: Silly course question
From: Pat Kelly <lollipop@ricochet.net>
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 10:52:02 -0700
You can thank Art Allen (AM #100 Tui SV) for that card sorter box. It
makes the job very easy.
--Pat K

giles@vy.com wrote:
> 
> Seconded. T&S work is actually pretty easy, and you don't get wet or
> sunburnt. But to do properly you really need a cone counter, a card
> sorter, a timing person and an announcer. And the people you get to work
> with are cool, of course. Its safer than standing on course. (Need I go
> on?)
> 
> Card sorting is also much easier at SFR events rather than NASA ones.
> Trying to sort cards without that funky card box we have is way too
> difficult.... (And if you think SFR has it bad with bad numbers, at Marina
> last weekend we had people running two drivers with the same numbers,
> numbers on only once side, etc, etc. It wasn't terribly easy...)
> 
>         Giles
> 
> On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Grantz, Sherry wrote:
> 
> > Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 10:11:57 -0700
> > From: "Grantz, Sherry" <Sherry.Grantz@Aspect.com>
> > To: "'ba-autox@autox.team.net'" <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
> > Subject: RE: Silly course question
> >
> > Michael makes a valid point here, that although he DNF'd, he was given times
> > in the results. I hate to admit it, but I too had a DNF (I know you would
> > have thought that was impossible), and was given a time in the results (a
> > 57.xxx I think on the second run, although the timing slip said 71.xxx DNF).
> > I don't think my time for the first run was right either; but the only run I
> > cared about - the good one - was right - so I' m not complaining.
> >
> > The times on the results are only as good as the timing crew in the trailer.
> > Everyone we had in T&S last Sunday was good. The problem was, often there
> > were only two people inside and at the most three. This is with no announcer
> > confirming times for anyone listening, no backup for the timing slip person
> > (he can only see the display - not get a confirmation from inside on every
> > run), and often the person writing times is on the radio talking to the
> > timing slip person, starter, and getting cone counts from the course. With a
> > car finishing every 20 seconds.
> >
> > Why are we so short staffed? Is there a lack of workers? No, it's because
> > 90% of the people who sign up to work flip to the back of the page and sign
> > up for course. They want to watch cars run before they go out, they think
> > T&S is too difficult, or whatever. Several times I had to twist arms and
> > browbeat people to get them to work inside (not that I really mind that
> > part).
> >
> > We need more people to take on the responsibility of working in T&S.
> > Remember - your times will only be as accurate as the crew inside - and if
> > they all act like your work group, don't expect accuracy.
> >
> > We are willing to train T&S workers - remember it's out of the wind and
> > you're sitting down, not chasing cones.
> >
> > And if you can't get the numbers on your car right - don't even expect T&S
> > to try and fix the problem for you. The people inside don't have the time to
> > solve problems while running cars every 20 seconds. Don't come to the motor
> > home during a run group and ask someone to spend 5 minutes sorting out your
> > times and timing cards. After the run group someone may be available to
> > help. . . or not.
> >
> > Sherry

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