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Re: Tire warmers

To: "Mark J. Andy" <marka@telerama.com>
Subject: Re: Tire warmers
From: "Larry R. Metz" <lrmetz@home.com>
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 06:16:05 -0500
OK guys, aren't we getting a bit out of hand here?

I remember when a solo was a fun relaxing Sunday afternoon.   NOw things
are getting too much.  Three day week-ends, enclosed trailers, $50,000+
motorhomes.  HOw about rules letting you bring a backup car incase???

It is about time for someone to invent a simple sportscar club for real
amateurs to just enjoy their cars on the week-end in their home town on
real street tires.  Those simple trophies sure are getting expensive!

Larry #66 solo vee

"Mark J. Andy" wrote:
> 
> Howdy,
> 
> Ok, I promise my comments on this topic won't make everyone think I'm a
> dickhead.  I've already done that and see no need to keep proving the
> point... :-)
> 
> I'm curious why electric tire warmers are disallowed?  Is this a potential
> safety thing or a "keep the costs down" thing?
> 
> If its based in cost, I would bet that a set of tire warmers & a generator
> ends up being considerably cheaper than a tire-warming co-driver that it
> seems like a lot of people use, particularly over a couple seasons.
> 
> I've got experience with electric warmers from mc racing and they very
> definately do make a difference both in initial stick and also in tire
> wear (no "cold-tearing" and you can reduce the heat cycle count to one per
> run group rather than one per run).
> 
> Having said all that, I've got no idea what car-sized tire warmers cost.
> For the bike warmers, you could get a set for $600.  I would assume for
> cars you'd be in the neighborhood of $1k to $3k.  $1k is one set of tires
> for me, about a season's runs for a codriver (not to mention additional
> wear and tear.  Oh, and its really hard to flat spot a tire with an
> electric tire warmer... :-)
> 
> There's also the physical aspect to consider (ie. you gotta be able to
> have the car in one place pretty much until its ready to run, then strip
> the blankets and go).  For Nationals / Tours this doesn't seem like a big
> issue, but for ProSolo you could probably only really use them in pre-grid
> (since you gotta be able to move the car in grid), limiting their
> effectiveness somewhat.
> 
> So whadda folks think?  Is it time to remove this rule?  Provided there
> are no safety issues that I don't know about, it would give folks like me
> that don't have tire-warming co-drivers a way to close that gap a bit for
> similar or perhaps less cost.
> 
> Mark
> 
> (btw, tire warmers can be a PITA.  More stuff to haul around, more stuff
> to setup when you get to grid, gotta be able to quickly strip them before
> you run, etc.  I don't think I'd bother for anything less than divisional
> & up competition.)

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