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Many thanks Adrian! This sounds like we're getting VERY close to the =
answer we're looking for. I did take a glance at the Pilkington website =
and see that they do have a separate division dealing in classic-car =
windscreens. ' Will be anxious to hear what's in those new crates.
Holiday Cheers,
Allen
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Allen & Florrie Bachelder =3Diii=3D<
Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
North Street, MI 48049, USA
http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
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On Dec 6, 2013, at 3:07 PM, <adriansawyer@cogeco.ca> =
<adriansawyer@cogeco.ca> wrote:
> Ask for Matt at Pilkingtons 800 848 1351. Spoke with him a couple of =
days ago and he tells me that a couple of crates has just arrived from =
the UK but they have yet to determine whether or not these are our =
Magnette windscreens. He has not yet managed to get back to me on this.
> Adrian Sawyer
> =20
> From: charles durning
> Sent: Friday, December 6, 2013 2:31 PM
> To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
> Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Wiring diagrams and windscreens
> =20
> I'll check with engineering to see if they can blow mine up to be =
printed on a wide carriage printer. In that case I would email an =
attachment and the file would have to go to someone who has a large =
printer.
> =20
> Here is a link to Pinkington USA. I don't remember the name of our =
contact.
> =20
> http://www.pilkington.com/en/us/automotive
> =20
> Charlie Durning
> =20
> If you are using Google or Gmail, Big Brother is watching.
> =20
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> On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Wayne & Isabel Hardy =
<gwhardy@suddenlink.net> wrote:
> Allen;
> I can look into it and see how good they reproduce, BUT my copies to =
start with aren=92t any great prizes, so expanding them to 11 x 17 won=92t=
make the quality any higher. Mine will only be in B & W too along with =
a copy of the color code guide.
> =20
> Wombat
> =20
> From: Allen Bachelder
> Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 12:28 AM
> To: zmagnette
> Subject: [Zmagnette] Wiring diagrams and windscreens
> =20
> In a recent phone conversation with one of our own, two concerns arose =
which I promised to address about a week ago. I apologize for the =
delay, but my past week has been memorable for its interruptions. =20
> =20
> Two questions:
> 1.) Is there somebody in our noble band who either could or would be =
interested in making up enlarged wiring diagrams for the Magnette. I =
know there are at least four of them, and maybe some choices would have =
to be made, but did somebody volunteer that they could provide an 11 X =
17 wiring diagram copy either laminated or suitable for lamination? If =
you are not such a person but have access to equipment that could =
produce same, for a PRICE of course, I can guaranty you sales of two of =
these from the get-go. I know we discussed this at some time but cannot =
recall how we left it.
> =20
> 2.) We also focused on a windscreen thread a year or two ago, and =
somebody found that Pilkington (?name?) had a US distribution center =
(somewhere in Ohio?) from which we might be able to expect a supply of =
new windscreens. Is there a follow-up story here? There are those of us =
who either need one or would buy one as a spare should they become =
available. Once again, any new information about this would certainly =
be welcome. I know the nightmare Steve Hanegan went through to land a =
shipment of windscreens and rear Varitone glasses here in the US of A. =
I suspect a good many of those of us of the Varitone persuasion would be =
cheered to find a stash of these bits available in North America, but I =
wouldn't wish this task on Steve again for anything. So... can anybody =
report anything new on this concern?
> =20
> Many thanks to anybody who can contribute to this conversation!
> =20
> Holiday Cheers,
> Allen
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> Allen & Florrie Bachelder =3Diii=3D<
> Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
> '57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
> North Street, MI 48049, USA
> http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
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<br><div><div>On Dec 6, 2013, at 3:07 PM, <<a =
href=3D"mailto:adriansawyer@cogeco.ca">adriansawyer@cogeco.ca</a>> =
<<a =
href=3D"mailto:adriansawyer@cogeco.ca">adriansawyer@cogeco.ca</a>> =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">
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<div>Ask for Matt at Pilkingtons 800 848 1351. Spoke with him a =
couple of=20
days ago and he tells me that a couple of crates has just arrived from =
the UK=20
but they have yet to determine whether or not these are our Magnette=20
windscreens. He has not yet managed to get back to me on =
this.</div>
<div>Adrian Sawyer</div>
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<div style=3D"font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a =
title=3D"durningcharles@gmail.com" =
href=3D"mailto:durningcharles@gmail.com">charles durning</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 6, 2013 2:31 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"zmagnette@autox.team.net" =
href=3D"mailto:zmagnette@autox.team.net">List for the Z Magnette Group - =
North=20
America</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Zmagnette] Wiring diagrams and=20
windscreens</div></div></div>
<div> </div></div>
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normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; TEXT-DECORATION: none; =
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<div>I'll check with engineering to see if they can blow mine up to be =
printed=20
on a wide carriage printer. In that case I would email an =
attachment and=20
the file would have to go to someone who has a large printer.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Here is a link to Pinkington USA. I don't remember the name =
of our=20
contact.</div>
<div> </div>
<div><a =
href=3D"http://www.pilkington.com/en/us/automotive">http://www.pilkington.=
com/en/us/automotive</a><br clear=3D"all"></div>
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<div>Charlie Durning</div>
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<div><font size=3D"4">If you are using Google or Gmail, Big Brother is=20=
watching.</font></div>
<div> </div></div></div><br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Wayne & =
Isabel Hardy=20
<span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:gwhardy@suddenlink.net" =
target=3D"_blank">gwhardy@suddenlink.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><font size=3D"4">Allen;</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"4">I can look into it and see how good they =
reproduce, BUT my=20
copies to start with aren=92t any great prizes, so expanding them to =
11 x 17=20
won=92t make the quality any higher. Mine will only be in B & W =
too along=20
with a copy of the color code guide.</font></div>
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<div><font size=3D"4">Wombat</font></div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"bachldrs@comcast.net" =
href=3D"mailto:bachldrs@comcast.net" target=3D"_blank">Allen =
Bachelder</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 06, 2013 12:28 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"zmagnette@autox.team.net" =
href=3D"mailto:zmagnette@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">zmagnette</a> =
</div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> [Zmagnette] Wiring diagrams and=20
windscreens</div></div></div>
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<div class=3D"h5">In a recent phone conversation with one of our own, =
two concerns=20
arose which I promised to address about a week ago. I apologize =
for the=20
delay, but my past week has been memorable for its =
interruptions. =20
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<div>Two questions:</div>
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<div>1.) Is there somebody in our noble band who either could =
or would=20
be interested in making up enlarged wiring diagrams for the =
Magnette. I know=20
there are at least four of them, and maybe some choices would have =
to be=20
made, but did somebody volunteer that they could provide an 11 X 17 =
wiring=20
diagram copy either laminated or suitable for lamination? If you are =
not=20
such a person but have access to equipment that could produce same, =
for a=20
PRICE of course, I can guaranty you sales of two of these from the=20=
get-go. I know we discussed this at some time but cannot =
recall how we=20
left it.</div>
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<div>2.) We also focused on a windscreen thread a year or two ago, =
and=20
somebody found that Pilkington (?name?) had a US distribution center=20=
(somewhere in Ohio?) from which we might be able to expect a supply =
of new=20
windscreens. Is there a follow-up story here? There are those =
of us=20
who either need one or would buy one as a spare should they become=20=
available. Once again, any new information about this would =
certainly=20
be welcome. I know the nightmare Steve Hanegan went through to =
land a=20
shipment of windscreens and rear Varitone glasses here in the US of =
A. =20
I suspect a good many of those of us of the Varitone persuasion =
would be=20
cheered to find a stash of these bits available in North America, =
but I=20
wouldn't wish this task on Steve again for anything. So... can =
anybody=20
report anything new on this concern?</div>
<div> </div></blockquote>Many thanks to anybody who can =
contribute to=20
this conversation!=20
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<div>Holiday Cheers,</div>
<div>Allen<br>
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