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From: John Perkins <wrench@attglobal.net>
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 16:52:22 -0600
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Arch:
     I once spent a winter evening in my MGB-GT with the battery cover 
off of the car so I could tap the fuel pump with the lug wrench every 10 
miles for 130 miles to keep enough fuel flowing to get me home.  SU Fuel 
pumps don't really die, they become zombies that need to be resurrected.
     I had a similar problem to yours that turned out to be worn needles 
and seats in the carbs.  The seats were worn to a point that the needles 
would stick.  Sometimes the rattle from the last gasp of the engine 
would shake them loose, other times a quick rap from the handle end of a 
screwdriver would shake them loose.  Real Grose jets cured the issue.
     Perkins

On 11/13/2013 4:38 PM, Arch Boston wrote:
> Jeff, I have had fuel pumps die, but, reserection???  I always thought 
> when they died they were dead.
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> On Nov 13, 2013, at 4:34 PM, JEFF ROMANS <jromans55@msn.com 
>
>>
>> /order your fuel pump now...then ready for final failure.../ on a 100 
>> degree day mine layed down 1 mile from home in parking lot ,after a 
>> 100 mile trip. once the car cooled down, started right up and drove 
>> home. next time wouldnt start. FUEL PUMP TIME.
>>  Jeff Romans
>>  1958 Magnette ZB
>> > Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 16:20:03 -0500
>> > Subject: [Zmagnette] What should I check first???
>> >
>> > My car has developed a problem..... The last few times I have 
>> driven the car it does the same thing. It will be running just fine 
>> and then it will start to act as if it is running out of gas. 
>> Stumbling and trying to die.... After I bleep the throttle a few 
>> times thinking it is truly "AAA time" the car will run just fine. 
>> There is a fuel filter between the gas tank and fuel pump. The filter 
>> doesn't look freshly installed, however, it is not needing 
>> replacement. The fuel pump is an electronic unit not SU. Should I 
>> suspect the fuel pump? In the past when I needed to replace a pump it 
>> was dead --- not working part of the time and fine later. What should 
>> I check first??? Arch
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPad
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Arch:<br>
      &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I once spent a winter evening in my MGB-GT with the 
battery
      cover off of the car so I could tap the fuel pump with the lug
      wrench every 10 miles for 130 miles to keep enough fuel flowing to
      get me home.&nbsp; SU Fuel pumps don't really die, they become zombies
      that need to be resurrected.<br>
      &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I had a similar problem to yours that turned out to be 
worn
      needles and seats in the carbs.&nbsp; The seats were worn to a point
      that the needles would stick.&nbsp; Sometimes the rattle from the last
      gasp of the engine would shake them loose, other times a quick rap
      from the handle end of a screwdriver would shake them loose.&nbsp; Real
      Grose jets cured the issue.<br>
      &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Perkins<br>
      <br>
      On 11/13/2013 4:38 PM, Arch Boston wrote:<br>
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      <div>Jeff, I have had fuel pumps die, but, reserection??? &nbsp;I
        always thought when they died they were dead.&nbsp;<br>
        <br>
        Sent from my iPad</div>
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        On Nov 13, 2013, at 4:34 PM, JEFF ROMANS &lt;<a
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            <em>order your fuel pump now...then ready for final
              failure...</em>&nbsp;on a 100 degree day mine layed down 1 mile
            from home in parking lot ,after a 100 mile trip. once the
            car cooled down, started right up and drove home. next time
            wouldnt start. FUEL PUMP TIME.<br>
            &nbsp;Jeff Romans<br>
            &nbsp;1958 Magnette ZB<br>
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              &gt; Subject: [Zmagnette] What should I check first???<br>
              &gt; <br>
              &gt; My car has developed a problem..... The last few
              times I have driven the car it does the same thing. It
              will be running just fine and then it will start to act as
              if it is running out of gas. Stumbling and trying to
              die.... After I bleep the throttle a few times thinking it
              is truly "AAA time" the car will run just fine. There is a
              fuel filter between the gas tank and fuel pump. The filter
              doesn't look freshly installed, however, it is not needing
              replacement. The fuel pump is an electronic unit not SU.
              Should I suspect the fuel pump? In the past when I needed
              to replace a pump it was dead --- not working part of the
              time and fine later. What should I check first??? Arch<br>
              &gt; <br>
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