Re: [Zmagnette] Engine Clatter & pressure drop <zmagnette@autox.team.net> <zmagnette.autox.team.net>

[Allen Bachelder <bachldrs@comcast.net>]

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My old self-imposed ceiling of 3500 rpm (for cruising, not accelerating) =
just keeps making more and more sense...

With the 4.3 rear end, the XPAG will go around 60 at 3500 rpm.  I'm =
starting to think that the stress I think I hear is real stress indeed.  =
Along with the XPAG, I can neither tolerate the sound of a B block =
"cruising" at much over 3500 rpm.  I'm told I'm horribly wrong and that =
the B blocks will run all day at 4400 rpm.  My own ears protect me from =
testing that theory.  You get much over 3500 and I simply cannot stand =
to listen to it.  I'm no longer enjoying the drive, so why would I be =
driving this car anyway?

FWIW,
Allen
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Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =3Diii=3D<
Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
North Street, MI 48049, USA
http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
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On Nov 11, 2013, at 9:59 PM, <jenntoo@shaw.ca> <jenntoo@shaw.ca> wrote:

> Easy to tell if it is a broken crank.  Take off or loosen the fan belt =
and see if you can easily move the crankshaft pulley a few degrees in =
either direction.  If you can the crank is almost certainly broken.  The =
"T" series cranks break whether the engine has been recently rebuilt or =
not and breakage appears independant of the engine overall condition.  =
The thought is that a harmonic vibration sets up in the crank at about =
4100 rpm and finally fatigues the crank and it breaks.  With the stump =
pulling 5.125 rear ratio 4100 rpm is around 60mph.  Do yourself a favour =
and change the ratio to 4.3:1.
>     I broke one in the late 60's.  Picked up a used crank for $25 from =
a Worseley 4/44, had it ground, picked up a complete set of bearings, =
pulled the motor, took off the pan and installed the 4/44 crank.  =
Nothing else was done.  After I had the parts this was done in less than =
one day and I drove the car for 10 years without any problem-mostly in =
the city of Sydney OZ.
>              Hugh Pite
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Allen Bachelder
> To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 6:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Engine Clatter & pressure drop
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> OK, 5# oil pressure tells you it's hemorrhaging some place.  If it's a =
bearing, why should just one bearing catastrophically fail?  I rather =
like the broken crankshaft theory.  A friend of mine had that happen =
recently with his TF. As to repair, you can always get by for some time =
with a minimalist approach if you don't drive it too hard or too much.  =
If all you do is take it out on 40 mph club tours - about 500 miles per =
year, then that might be OK. If you want it right, do what it takes to =
make it right.  You may have to pull and disassemble quite a bit before =
you have your answer - and by that time, it will not make economic sense =
to put it back together with a minimal repair.  Most of us don't want to =
go this way more than once...
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> OTOH, a friend had to shut his TD down in Kansas on the Rallye to Reno =
due to a horrible clatter that, after a tow back to Michigan, turned out =
to be valve gear banging on an ill-centered valve cover! Of course that =
was not associated with a loss of oil pressure...
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> FWIW,
> Allen
> ****************************************************************
> Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =3Diii=3D<
> Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
> '57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
> North Street, MI 48049, USA
> http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
> ****************************************************************
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> On Nov 11, 2013, at 7:36 PM, Richard Greenberg wrote:
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>> Still plenty of oil.  After I stopped, I restarted the engine to =
drive it slowly a few hundred feet to a safe spot off the highway.  The =
engine has never been rebuilt to my knowledge, but who knows its =
history? I have owned it about 15 years. It has always run fine, =
although not super peppy. =20
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>> If it proves to be a bearing, does one just fix the offending =
bearing, or is it a sign that everything is about to need redoing?
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>> I haven't had time to look at the rockers or the bearings.
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>> --Rick
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>> On Nov 11, 2013, at 5:25 PM, Steven Trovato wrote:
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>>> Rick,
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>>> I think you have to investigate the problem before you can decide on =
a course of action.  Sorry for stating the obvious, but there is still  =
plenty of oil in there, right?  If something failed causing all the oil =
to pour out on that hill, you would have a sudden drop in oil pressure =
and a whole lot of clatter.  What is the state of this engine?  Recent =
rebuild or old and tired?
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>>> -Steve T.
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>>> At 06:40 PM 11/11/2013, Richard Greenberg wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>     This is about my TD, but I bet you folks can help.
>>>>     I decided to drive the TD, instead of my Magnette, to our =
British car club's annual BBQ.  About 25 miles out, running at about 50 =
mph uphill but not too hot, the engine started clattering and the oil =
pressure suddenly dropped to about 5 psi.  I had the poor car carried =
home.
>>>>     Any ideas about what happened? Rod bearing wiped out? Broken =
rocker arm?
>>>>     If it is one of those things, should I just make the repair, or =
is it time to have the whole engine rejuvenated?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Rick
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after-white-space; ">My old self-imposed ceiling of 3500 rpm (for =
cruising, not accelerating) just keeps making more and more =
sense...<div><br></div><div>With the 4.3 rear end, the XPAG will go =
around 60 at 3500 rpm. &nbsp;I'm starting to think that the stress I =
think I hear is real stress indeed. &nbsp;Along with the XPAG, I can =
neither tolerate the sound of a B block "cruising" at much over 3500 =
rpm. &nbsp;I'm told I'm horribly wrong and that the B blocks will run =
all day at 4400 rpm. &nbsp;My own ears protect me from testing that =
theory. &nbsp;You get much over 3500 and I simply cannot stand to listen =
to it. &nbsp;I'm no longer enjoying the drive, so why would I be driving =
this car anyway?</div><div><br></div><div>FWIW,</div><div>Allen<br><div>
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<br><div><div>On Nov 11, 2013, at 9:59 PM, &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jenntoo@shaw.ca";>jenntoo@shaw.ca</a>&gt; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jenntoo@shaw.ca";>jenntoo@shaw.ca</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span =
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bgcolor=3D"#ffffff" style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: =
space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><strong><font =
size=3D"4">Easy to tell if it is a broken crank.&nbsp; Take off or =
loosen the fan belt and see if you can easily move the crankshaft pulley =
a few degrees in either direction.&nbsp; If you can the crank is almost =
certainly broken.&nbsp; The "T" series cranks break whether the engine =
has been recently rebuilt or not and breakage appears independant of the =
engine overall condition.&nbsp; The thought is that a harmonic vibration =
sets up in the crank at about 4100 rpm and finally fatigues the crank =
and it breaks.&nbsp; With the stump pulling 5.125 rear ratio 4100 rpm is =
around 60mph.&nbsp; Do yourself a favour and change the ratio to =
4.3:1.</font></strong></div><div><strong><font =
size=3D"4">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I broke one in the late 60's.&nbsp; Picked =
up a used crank for $25 from a Worseley 4/44, had it ground, picked up a =
complete set of bearings, pulled the motor, took off the pan and =
installed the 4/44 crank.&nbsp; Nothing else was done.&nbsp; After I had =
the parts this was done in less than one day and I drove the car for 10 =
years without any problem-mostly in the city of Sydney =
OZ.</font></strong></div><div><strong><font =
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sp;&nbsp; Hugh Pite</font></strong></div><blockquote dir=3D"ltr" =
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initial; "><b>From:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
title=3D"bachldrs@comcast.net" href=3D"mailto:bachldrs@comcast.net";>Allen =
Bachelder</a></div><div style=3D"font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal =
arial; "><b>To:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
title=3D"zmagnette@autox.team.net" =
href=3D"mailto:zmagnette@autox.team.net";>List for the Z Magnette Group - =
North America</a></div><div style=3D"font: normal normal normal =
10pt/normal arial; "><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Monday, November 11, 2013 =
6:12 PM</div><div style=3D"font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; =
"><b>Subject:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: =
[Zmagnette] Engine Clatter &amp; pressure drop</div><div><br></div>OK, =
5# oil pressure tells you it's hemorrhaging some place. &nbsp;If it's a =
bearing, why should just one bearing catastrophically fail? &nbsp;I =
rather like the broken crankshaft theory. &nbsp;A friend of mine had =
that happen recently with his TF. As to repair, you can always get by =
for some time with a minimalist approach if you don't drive it too hard =
or too much. &nbsp;If all you do is take it out on 40 mph club tours - =
about 500 miles per year, then that might be OK. If you want it right, =
do what it takes to make it right. &nbsp;You may have to pull and =
disassemble quite a bit before you have your answer - and by that time, =
it will not make economic sense to put it back together with a minimal =
repair. &nbsp;Most of us don't want to go this way more than =
once...<div><br></div><div>OTOH, a friend had to shut his TD down in =
Kansas on the Rallye to Reno due to a horrible clatter that, after a tow =
back to Michigan, turned out to be valve gear banging on an ill-centered =
valve cover! Of course that was not associated with a loss of oil =
pressure...</div><div><br></div><div>FWIW,</div><div>Allen<br><div><span =
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pan></div></span></span></div><br><div><div>On Nov 11, 2013, at 7:36 PM, =
Richard Greenberg wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>Still =
plenty of oil. &nbsp;After I stopped, I restarted the engine to drive it =
slowly a few hundred feet to a safe spot off the highway. &nbsp;The =
engine has never been rebuilt to my knowledge, but who knows its =
history? I have owned it about 15 years. It has always run fine, =
although not super peppy. &nbsp;<br><br>If it proves to be a bearing, =
does one just fix the offending bearing, or is it a sign that everything =
is about to need redoing?<br><br>I haven't had time to look at the =
rockers or the bearings.<br><br>--Rick<br><br><br>On Nov 11, 2013, at =
5:25 PM, Steven Trovato wrote:<br><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">Rick,<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">I think you =
have to investigate the problem before you can decide on a course of =
action. &nbsp;Sorry for stating the obvious, but there is still =
&nbsp;plenty of oil in there, right? &nbsp;If something failed causing =
all the oil to pour out on that hill, you would have a sudden drop in =
oil pressure and a whole lot of clatter. &nbsp;What is the state of this =
engine? &nbsp;Recent rebuild or old and =
tired?<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">-Steve =
T.<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">At 06:40 PM 11/11/2013, Richard Greenberg =
wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">Hi all,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;This is =
about my TD, but I bet you folks can =
help.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I decided to drive the TD, instead =
of my Magnette, to our British car club's annual BBQ. &nbsp;About 25 =
miles out, running at about 50 mph uphill but not too hot, the engine =
started clattering and the oil pressure suddenly dropped to about 5 psi. =
&nbsp;I had the poor car carried =
home.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Any ideas about what happened? Rod =
bearing wiped out? Broken rocker =
arm?<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;If it is one of those things, =
should I just make the repair, or is it time to have the whole engine =
rejuvenated?<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">Thanks,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">Rick<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote =
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