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utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">That=E2=80=99s a great story!<div>Thanks,</=
div><div>Dave Connitt<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Dec 6, 2022, at 3:48 PM, johnbma=
cartney@gmx.com wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
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oNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi, Dave,<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:=
p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-l=
anguage:EN-US">Very few, if any of the Experimental Engineers made it into t=
he public and enthusiast=E2=80=99s eye except for one or two =E2=80=93 and t=
hey were mainly known only in the UK. Sadly, all but one of them are now fix=
ing Heralds in heaven. One of them was the late Ray Henderson from the Exper=
imental Department. A lovely, unassuming man who was a brilliant engineer of=
the old school and who could turn his hand to fixing the impossible miles f=
rom anywhere, told me many stories of his experiences. Ray undertook quite a=
number of trips in development cars to far flung destinations and the one a=
bout which he was the most critical was being one of the crew that drove two=
or three Heralds (pre-launch versions) from Cape Town in South Africa to Lo=
ndon. The book of that trip was called =E2=80=9CTurn Left at Tangier=E2=80=9D=
though I don=E2=80=99t think Ray provided much of the input to it being wri=
tten. If he had, it=E2=80=99s likely he=E2=80=99d have either lost his job o=
r been seriously disciplined on his return. He was scathing in the extreme a=
bout the whole venture and highly critical of the Company for even suggestin=
g the exercise in the first place. In Ray=E2=80=99s view =E2=80=93 which I t=
hink was shared by all those who went with him on the trip, was that the car=
s were totally unsuited to the journey they made and it=E2=80=99s a tribute t=
o Ray and his colleagues that they actually managed to get the cars back, so=
badly were they damaged by the appalling so-called roads and no roads at al=
l in crossing the Sahara desert. Apart from the unsuitability of the chosen r=
oute, none of those who took part were given any kind of training or pre-run=
preparation in terms of the types of terrain, culture, language, don=E2=80=99=
t-do=E2=80=99s etc that they would encounter, the very real dangers that fac=
ed them in going through certain countries where the white man definitely wa=
s not wanted, through training in basic medicine and first aid, treating col=
leagues for scorpion attacks or snake bite and damn all in terms of carrying=
appropriate medical kits on all the vehicles. As I recall, there were three=
Heralds, one Vanguard estate car and a Standard Atlas van with about one an=
d a half tons of parts, tools, fuel, water and camping kit =E2=80=93 and jus=
t one 948cc engine to drive it!!!!! Ray told me that each Herald required at=
least three rear suspension rebuilds en-route, several clutch changes and t=
wo or three major gearbox failures! I can=E2=80=99t recall the details now, b=
ut there were so many driveshaft, rear wheel carriers and other vital parts f=
ailures, that several more were air-freighted out to Nigeria in the hope of g=
etting the cars home. I do know all the cars were re-fitted in Lagos, Nigeri=
a with locally made radiators that didn=E2=80=99t break or crack as a result=
of vibration. Having spent a lot of time in Africa myself, I know what thei=
r roads can do and I have a lot of respect for local tradespeople on street c=
orners who can do truly amazing things in repairing something that looks sma=
shed beyond repair. Anyway, when they finally got to Coventry, all the men w=
ho had taken part in the event, were publicly castigated by Harry Webster, t=
he Director of Engineering for submitting trip reports that were critical of=
a number of Webster-inspired features on the Herald in particular. Ray summ=
arised that event as =E2=80=9Cthe journey through hell=E2=80=9D and he was v=
ery critical of Alick Dick (Standard-Triumph=E2=80=99s CEO) and Frank Higham=
(Sales Director) for abdicating the company=E2=80=99s duty of care to emplo=
yees in sending that team of men on what they felt was a dangerous and ill t=
hought-out expedition in cars that were totally unsuited to that sort of tra=
vel in such conditions.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Another of Ray=E2=80=99s unique contribut=
ions was the creation of a Spitfire whose roadholding was far better than th=
e Sprite/Midget in standard spec. It was so good that Webster insisted it sh=
ould be put in the crusher and the concept forgotten. Basically, Ray modifie=
d a Spitfire taken off the line, substantially reinforced the rear part of t=
he bodyshell and re-equipped the car with semi-trailing arms and coil spring=
s as per the TR4A but using parts from the Triumph 1300 front wheel drive ca=
r. Ray did that conversion, on his own, in the Engineering workshop in just t=
hree weeks =E2=80=93 and without any drawings at all! It was all done on =E2=
=80=9Cif it looks right, it=E2=80=99ll probably be right =E2=80=93 and it wa=
s. That car was so good it *<b>ought</b>* to have gone into production but t=
he costs that would have been incurred in completely re-jigging the chassis a=
nd doing major work in re-designing and strengthening the body tub would hav=
e put another GBP50 (@ 1966 values) on the manufacturing cost of the c=
ar. Such a cost would have translated to an extra GBP250 at retail =E2=80=93=
and Webster claimed (perhaps correctly?) that this would price the Spitfire=
out of the market and make the Spridget the favoured car for its price, so h=
e threw the whole idea out. A terrible shame in its way. All those (few) who=
drove the car =E2=80=93 apart from Webster, were unanimous it was the way t=
he Spitfire should have been designed from the start and leading that argume=
nt was the Company=E2=80=99s chief test driver!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US">So, a little bit o=
f =E2=80=98behind the scenes=E2=80=99 history for those who are interested. A=
pologies for taking up space they may not interest most people.<o:p></o:p></=
span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><=
o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast=
-language:EN-US">Jonmac<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div sty=
le=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;f=
ont-size:pt"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Dave Connitt <dconnitt@f=
use.net> <br><b>Sent:</b> 06 December 2022 14:04<br><b>To:</b> johnbmacar=
tney@gmx.com<br><b>Cc:</b> Rye Livingston <ryel@mac.com>; stagbytriump=
h@triumphstagclub.org; Randy and Valerie DeRuiter <deruiterville@hotmail.=
com>; Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR=
] Travel and tuning question<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">That=E2=80=99s interesting Jon=
mac,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Did any of those shows ever d=
iscuss how the drivers handled the altitude? Asking for a friend, LOL.<o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Da=
ve Connitt<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone<o:p=
></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockqu=
ote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" st=
yle=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Dec 6, 2022, at 4:12 AM, <a href=3D"mailto:j=
ohnbmacartney@gmx.com">johnbmacartney@gmx.com</a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blo=
ckquote></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=EF=BB=BF<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Back in the day =E2=80=93 like fifty p=
lus years ago, all the larger UK car makers undertook extensive altitude tes=
ting on all their cars. Favourite locations were Europe, Scandinavia, Canadi=
an Rockies, the Andes and Iran before the Shah was deposed. Lots of Pike=E2=80=
=99s Peak equivalent places in some of those locations and this sort of test=
ing is something many enthusiasts don=E2=80=99t take on board.</span><o:p></=
o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US">&n=
bsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-=
language:EN-US">Jonmac</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div styl=
e=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;fo=
nt-size:pt"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Rye Livingston <<a href=3D=
"mailto:ryel@mac.com";>ryel@mac.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> 05 December 2022=
19:22<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:johnbmacartney@gmx.com";>johnbmacartne=
y@gmx.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.=
org">stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org</a>; Dave Connitt <<a href=3D"mail=
to:dconnitt@fuse.net">dconnitt@fuse.net</a>>; Randy and Valerie DeRuiter &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:deruiterville@hotmail.com";>deruiterville@hotmail.com</a=
>>; Triumphs <<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@auto=
x.team.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Travel and tuning question<o:=
p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">Before the pandemic I drove my TR3 from sea level in Californ=
ia, to Flagstaff Arizona, just shy of 7000=E2=80=99, for Triumphest. O=
n the way home we drove over Tioga Pass going into Yosemite at 9,945 feet. &=
nbsp;I didn=E2=80=99t adjust anything and it ran well.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p=
class=3D"MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
Rye<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><di=
v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><image001.jpg><o:p></o:p></p></div><div>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style=3D"margi=
n-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Dec 4, 2022,=
at 2:37 AM, <a href=3D"mailto:johnbmacartney@gmx.com";>johnbmacartney@gmx.co=
m</a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p=
><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Agreed. I don=E2=80=99t recall either of t=
hose Stags suffering fuel starvation or 'altitude' sickness. One on SU's, th=
e other on Strombergs. Must admit I was glad when we did the descent as the a=
ltitude was doing me no good at all. That said, a great drive in both direct=
ions, a fine day and an amazing view at the summit.<br><br>jonmac<br><br>---=
--Original Message-----<br>From: <a href=3D"mailto:stagbytriumph@triumphstag=
club.org">stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org</a> <<a href=3D"mailto:stagby=
triumph@triumphstagclub.org">stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org</a>> <br>S=
ent: 02 December 2022 21:34<br>To: 'Dave Connitt' <<a href=3D"mailto:dcon=
nitt@fuse.net">dconnitt@fuse.net</a>>; 'Randy and Valerie DeRuiter' <<=
a href=3D"mailto:deruiterville@hotmail.com";>deruiterville@hotmail.com</a>>=
;<br>Cc: 'Triumphs' <<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@=
autox.team.net</a>><br>Subject: Re: [TR] Travel and tuning question<br><b=
r>I hear there are a lot of "'deer" on top of Pikes Peak at various times!<b=
r><br>Glenn aka StagByTriumph<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Tri=
umphs <<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net";>triumphs-bounce=
s@autox.team.net</a>> On Behalf Of Dave Connitt<br>Sent: Friday, December=
2, 2022 10:45 AM<br>To: Randy and Valerie DeRuiter <<a href=3D"mailto:de=
ruiterville@hotmail.com">deruiterville@hotmail.com</a>><br>Cc: Triumphs &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a>>=
;<br>Subject: Re: [TR] Travel and tuning question<br><br>Thanks for the tip R=
andy! <br>Yea, the trip to Pikes Peak started from a conversation with some T=
riState Triumph people at lunch after one of our =E2=80=9Cspirited drives=E2=
=80=9D. The trip up Pikes Peak was a bucket list goal of one of the couples.=
I asked my wife if she wanted to go too and after saying yes, she suggested=
that since we will be out west why not see some other sites? We=E2=80=99re b=
oth retired so there=E2=80=99s no hurry getting back home. There=E2=80=99s a=
bout 8 of us going to Pikes Peak so far. I haven=E2=80=99t mentioned our ext=
ended trip to the group yet but some of them may want to go with us instead o=
f driving straight back to Cinci.<br><br>Thanks again for the electric fuel p=
ump idea!!<br>Tha car is already up on the QuckJack<span style=3D"font-famil=
y:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif">=F0=9F=98=81</span>.<br>Dave and Co=
lleen Connitt<br>FOG 51<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p=
></p><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal">On Dec 2, 2022, at 11:56 AM, Randy and Valerie DeRuiter <<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:deruiterville@hotmail.com";>deruiterville@hotmail.com</a>> wr=
ote:<br><br>=EF=BB=BFDave<br><br>Sounds like a great trip - I didn=E2=80=99t=
make the last tour with my other FOG buddies but when they went through the=
Rockies the #1 issue at altitude was the mechanical fuel pump cavitating du=
e to ethanol gas we think. A couple guys on the trip hooked up tempora=
ry electric pumps and had no issue - no carb adjustments were made for any o=
f them.<br><br>Randy<br>FOG37<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<br><br><br><br><o:p=
></o:p></p><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal">On Dec 2, 2022, at 10:15 AM, Dave Connitt <<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:dconnitt@fuse.net">dconnitt@fuse.net</a>> wrote:<br><br>=EF=BB=BFHi a=
ll,<br>This coming summer my wife and I are planning a fairly long trip in m=
y TR4A leaving from Cincinnati, Ohio (altitude approximately 500=E2=80=
=99). Our first destination is going to be Colorado Springs, Co. to drive up=
Pikes Peak (altitude approximately 14,115=E2=80=99). Then north to Mt. Rush=
more (altitude approximately 5,700=E2=80=99), then north to drive through Ye=
llowstone national park (altitude approximately 9,200=E2=80=99). That=E2=80=99=
s going to be quite a swing in altitude and I am wondering if I will have to=
occasionally tune the SU HS-6 carbs? Has anyone on the list done a similar d=
rive? If so, how did your Triumph run and what did you have to adjust?<br>Th=
anks in advance!<br>Dave Connitt<br>=E2=80=9867 TR4A-IRS<br><a href=3D"http:=
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