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Re: [TR] Removing Tie-rod 56TR3

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Subject: Re: [TR] Removing Tie-rod 56TR3
From: Harold Sawatsky <hsawatsk@sasktel.net>
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 17:14:02 -0600
Cc: "list, TR" <triumphs@autox.team.net>, "Randall, TR3driver" <TR3driver@ca.rr.com>
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OK. I'll sit down I front of it in the morning.=20
And, my terminology could definitely be off. I thought I had a good look but=
 marble not.=20
Good advice=20

Thanks

Harold Sawatsky
Remax Crown Real Estate
306-535-6961
hsawatsky@remax.com

> On Jan 22, 2016, at 1:58 PM, davehogye <dlhogye@comcast.net> wrote:
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> All good solid advice. =20
> The fulcrum pin is the inside upper and lower a-arm pivots.  The upper pin=
 is replaceable, but the lower isn't really.  Are you sure that you have the=
 parts terminology correct?  What car is this?
> The upper pin replacement wouldn't necessarily include removable of the ti=
e rod end.
>=20
> Dave H.
> From: "Tony Drews" <tony@tonydrews.com>
> To: "Randall" <TR3driver@ca.rr.com>, "Harold Sawatsky" <hsawatsk@sasktel.n=
et>, triumphs@autox.team.net
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:44:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [TR] Removing Tie-rod 56TR3
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> +1 on that style of ball joint separator - seems to be much nicer to=20
> the ball joint, especially if I'm taking it apart but don't plan to=20
> replace the ball joint.
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> Tony Drews
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> At 09:41 AM 1/22/2016, Randall wrote:
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> > > First, thanks for all the input I received before Xmas. The
> > > project this weekend is to remove the tie rod as one of the
> > > fulcrum pins is completely destroyed
> >
> >A very common problem in my experience.  You might want to consider=20
> >upgrading to the Delrin/SS joints as sold by ARE & TRF.  They
> >will last much longer.
> >
> > > Also, should we replace any other bushings while we are
> > > doing this? It does look like most other components are in
> > > good condition.
> >
> >The inner A-arm bushings are another common problem, IMO;=20
> >particularly the upper ones.  For the other joints, pry and wiggle agains=
t
> >them looking for any movement.  In general, if you can see them move=20
> >at all in ways they are not supposed to, the joint should be
> >replaced.
> >
> >Also look for any play in the steering box.  If you see any, my=20
> >suggestion is to rebuild it rather than trying to adjust the screw
> >on the top.  It's to compensate for manufacturing tolerances, not wear IM=
O.
> >
> > > Trying to find some documentation or advice as to the best
> > > way to proceed and do I need any specialty tools.
> >
> >This style of tool seems to work the best for me
> >http://www.harborfreight.com/3-4-quarter-inch-forged-ball-joint-separator=
-99849.html
> >
> >Never had much luck with the "pickle fork" style, especially on=20
> >those fulcrum pins (aka silentblocs).
> >
> >Randall
> >
> >
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>OK. I'll sit down I front of it in the=
 morning.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">And, my terminology coul=
d definitely be off. I thought I had a good look but marble not.&nbsp;</div>=
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Good advice&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSi=
gnature"><br></div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Thanks<br><br>Harold Sawat=
sky<div>Remax Crown Real Estate</div><div>306-535-6961</div><div><a href=3D"=
mailto:hsawatsky@remax.com";>hsawatsky@remax.com</a></div></div><div><br>On J=
an 22, 2016, at 1:58 PM, davehogye &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dlhogye@comcast.net=
">dlhogye@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<div><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div=
 aria-label=3D"Compose body">All good solid advice. &nbsp;</div><div aria-la=
bel=3D"Compose body">The fulcrum pin is the inside upper and lower a-arm piv=
ots. &nbsp;The upper pin is replaceable, but the lower isn't really. &nbsp;A=
re you sure that you have the parts terminology correct? &nbsp;What car is t=
his?</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">The upper pin replacement wouldn'=
t necessarily include removable of the tie rod end.</div><div aria-label=3D"=
Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">Dave H.</div><div a=
ria-label=3D"Compose body"></div><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div style=3D"color:#000;f=
ont-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helveti=
ca,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #000; font-wei=
ght: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helveti=
ca,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Tony Drews" &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:tony@tonydrews.com";>tony@tonydrews.com</a>&gt;<br><b>To: </b>"Ran=
dall" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:TR3driver@ca.rr.com";>TR3driver@ca.rr.com</a>&gt;=
, "Harold Sawatsky" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:hsawatsk@sasktel.net";>hsawatsk@sas=
ktel.net</a>&gt;, <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.=
team.net</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, January 22, 2016 10:44:00 AM<br><b>Subj=
ect: </b>Re: [TR] Removing Tie-rod 56TR3<br><div><br></div>+1 on that style o=
f ball joint separator - seems to be much nicer to <br>the ball joint, espec=
ially if I'm taking it apart but don't plan to <br>replace the ball joint.<b=
r><div><br></div>Tony Drews<br><div><br></div>At 09:41 AM 1/22/2016, Randall=
 wrote:<br><div><br></div>&gt; &gt; First, thanks for all the input I receiv=
ed before Xmas. The<br>&gt; &gt; project this weekend is to remove the tie r=
od as one of the<br>&gt; &gt; fulcrum pins is completely destroyed<br>&gt;<b=
r>&gt;A very common problem in my experience. &nbsp;You might want to consid=
er <br>&gt;upgrading to the Delrin/SS joints as sold by ARE &amp; TRF. &nbsp=
;They<br>&gt;will last much longer.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Also, should we rep=
lace any other bushings while we are<br>&gt; &gt; doing this? It does look l=
ike most other components are in<br>&gt; &gt; good condition.<br>&gt;<br>&gt=
;The inner A-arm bushings are another common problem, IMO; <br>&gt;particula=
rly the upper ones. &nbsp;For the other joints, pry and wiggle against<br>&g=
t;them looking for any movement. &nbsp;In general, if you can see them move <=
br>&gt;at all in ways they are not supposed to, the joint should be<br>&gt;r=
eplaced.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Also look for any play in the steering box. &nbsp;If=
 you see any, my <br>&gt;suggestion is to rebuild it rather than trying to a=
djust the screw<br>&gt;on the top. &nbsp;It's to compensate for manufacturin=
g tolerances, not wear IMO.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Trying to find some documen=
tation or advice as to the best<br>&gt; &gt; way to proceed and do I need an=
y specialty tools.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;This style of tool seems to work the best f=
or me<br>&gt;<a href=3D"http://www.harborfreight.com/3-4-quarter-inch-forged=
-ball-joint-separator-99849.html">http://www.harborfreight.com/3-4-quarter-i=
nch-forged-ball-joint-separator-99849.html</a><br>&gt;<br>&gt;Never had much=
 luck with the "pickle fork" style, especially on <br>&gt;those fulcrum pins=
 (aka silentblocs).<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Randall<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;** <a href=
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