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Re: [TR] TR3 Horn Wiring

To: keithstewart@bell.net, tr3driver@ca.rr.com
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Horn Wiring
From: Dave <dave1massey@cs.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 17:59:21 -0400
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
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Yes, it does.  The horns ground through the horn button and when the contac=
ts get old they don't carry enough current to work the horns.  A quick fix =
is to wire up a relay.

Get a generic cube relay a your FLAPS.  To wire up the relay connect one co=
il wire to the N/G wire and the other to the N/B wire from the steering col=
umn.  Connect the N/B wire from the horns to the NO contact on the relay.  =
Connect the COM contact on the relay to a good ground.  It's a walk in the =
park.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Stewart <keithstewart@bell.net>
To: Randall <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>
Cc: triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, Aug 28, 2015 2:48 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Horn Wiring


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Hmm. I have connections to each (one N/G and one N/B) and pressing the    =
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horn button gives a brief, muffled  hmph. Yet when I was taking one apart, =
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I shorted something inside the horn that gave off a load blast the way it  =
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should be. Seems something must be amiss in the wiring.     =20
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FWIW, I fought a similar problem for a long time.  Turned out the 4-way   =
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bullet sleeve was broken internally, but the shrunken vinyl sleeve made it =
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I have power at the N/G bullets and connectors. When the N/G wires are atta=
ched to the horn connectors, I get power at the N/B wires. When the horn bu=
tton is pressed, all wired up this way, I very low =E2=80=9Chmph=E2=80=9D o=
r =E2=80=9Cbump=E2=80=9D is heard. If I remove a N/B from a horn and touch =
it to ground, the horn sounds as it should. If I remove the other N/B and t=
ouch it to ground, again the horn sounds as it should. I am guessing the ho=
rn button ground is not doing its job. Now, to trace where that ground conn=
ection is located. Does that logic make sense?=20
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<font color=3D'black' size=3D'4' face=3D'Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><fon=
t size=3D"4">Yes, it does.&nbsp; The horns ground through the horn button a=
nd when the contacts get old they don't carry enough current to work the ho=
rns.&nbsp; A quick fix is to wire up a relay.<br>
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Get a generic cube relay a your FLAPS.&nbsp; To wire up the relay connect o=
ne coil wire to the N/G wire and the other to the N/B wire from the steerin=
g column.&nbsp; Connect the N/B wire from the horns to the NO contact on th=
e relay.&nbsp; Connect the COM contact on the relay to a good ground.&nbsp;=
 It's a walk in the park.<br>
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From: Keith Stewart &lt;keithstewart@bell.net&gt;<br>

To: Randall &lt;tr3driver@ca.rr.com&gt;<br>

Cc: triumphs &lt;triumphs@autox.team.net&gt;<br>

Sent: Fri, Aug 28, 2015 2:48 pm<br>

Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Horn Wiring<br>

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Hmm. I have connections to each (one N/G and one N/B) and pressing the
     <br class=3D"">horn button gives a brief, muffled &nbsp;hmph. Yet when=
 I was taking one apart,
     <br class=3D"">I shorted something inside the horn that gave off a loa=
d blast the way it
     <br class=3D"">should be. Seems something must be amiss in the wiring.=
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    <br class=3D"">FWIW, I fought a similar problem for a long time. &nbsp;=
Turned out the 4-way
    <br class=3D"">bullet sleeve was broken internally, but the shrunken vi=
nyl sleeve made it
    <br class=3D"">seem like the bullets were snapping into place snugly.
    <br class=3D"">
    <br class=3D"">Randall
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I have power at the N/G bullets and connectors. When the N/G wires are atta=
ched to the horn connectors, I get power at the N/B wires. When the horn bu=
tton is pressed, all wired up this way, I very low =E2=80=9Chmph=E2=80=9D o=
r =E2=80=9Cbump=E2=80=9D is heard. If I remove a N/B from a horn and touch =
it to ground, the horn sounds as it should. If I remove the other N/B and t=
ouch it to ground, again the horn sounds as it should. I am guessing the ho=
rn button ground is not doing its job. Now, to trace where that ground conn=
ection is located. Does that logic make sense?
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